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  • #46
    Free, Honest????

    Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
    Forget about all these guys quoted above, just quote ME!

    Keep live simple, free and honest.
    Hello Ben

    The way to cut to the chase is find out how you define honest. By who's definition? By the street rats definition mugging a wealth business man for a few bucks while he starves is justice.

    Unless all you folks find out your source for some super special code of mortality questions will never stop. You will question the questions unless you start answering these root ones.

    Take the big one first "Don't kill folks" find out why this is right, correct and where is came from. Don't forget to find out why folks shouldn't kill from this source of yours and so on.

    Keep rehearsing this definition till you exhaust all of the various ways folks define and solve this problem.

    I say problem because some definitions permit the slaughter of others based on a variety of reasons that are considered legit.

    Murder is what should be defined and who is making the rules for killing.

    Today an eye for an eye type Law does not exist so we can forget drowning in endless chatter about how killers should be killed, it don't happen.

    Killers go free, we know that. That is not the point, we all know better than this, BUT HOW?


    HUMM..............

    Mike
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-27-2014, 06:52 PM.

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    • #47
      Hand Over Mouth

      Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
      "I think so i am" (cogito ergo sum - je panse donc je suis), remember that? If you don't exist than who am i communicating with? So, if you are (exist) then at least you (contingent being) are (exist). If anything at all (for instance - you) exists, then existence is real. Had any kind of existence ever existed then absolute nothingness have not existed and never will. After all, nothingness and existence absolutely exclude each other. It means that Absolute Being is real, cause any kind of existence is possible only by presumption of unconditional everlasting-timeless existence of Absolute Being (otherwise it would have not been absolute), cause the only way to avoid absolute nothingness is "to postulate" REAL-TIMELESS-UNCAUSED-SELF-SUSTAINED (which means absolute) Absolute Being.

      It is obvious upon reflection that "what a thing is" and "that it is" are completely different statements.

      That a thing is or has existence, is a principle really distinct from its quiddity. In no case (except for God) does the essence of a thing indicate anything about whether that thing really is. The essence of a horse that exists, and the essence of a horse that doesn't are absolutely the same, namely horse-ness; a horse's existing is totally different from what kind of a thing it is. Therefore, there must be something about really existing things that accounts for this very existing, and it is not their essence; it is their existence. Existence then is that which makes essences to be, to exercise the act of existing.

      Essence and Existence are the same in God (Aesity)

      Before embarking on this study of substance, however, AristotleAristotle
      Hilbert's Hotel and Infinity


      About intellectual honesty and scientific credibility of modern darwinists who still apologetically try to defend undefendable shame of theory (of evolution) which was from the very beginning nothing else but utter "insult for sane mind" (to literally translate one croatian phrase):

      Michael Behe's Critics Misunderstand Irreducible Complexity and Make Darwinian Evolution Unfalsifiable - See more at: Michael Behe's Critics Misunderstand Irreducible Complexity and Make Darwinian Evolution Unfalsifiable - Evolution News & Views

      Evidence for Intelligent Design from Biochemistry


      DNA Trash Talk

      One of the greatest philosophers of 20th century:
      Author of Temelji ontologije, Uvod u filozofiju, and Metamorfoze Metafizike


      His book "The metamorphoses of metaphisics" is pure masterpiece of world philosophy...

      Looming Faustian Night
      @cikljamas

      Great job whipping the kids with all of the historical data concerning how each figure tries to get one leg up and the next guy. They don't add up. There is always some ridiculous flaw in their doctrines.

      So every person that wants to brush onto this subject does not realize that it is more involved than pulsing a coil of wire or collecting the suns rays.

      Once they find out that this discussion requires more research than all of the other studies combined they will throw up their hands and quit.

      What you are doing needs to be done as you get many main points as stated by others throughout history. A+

      Wear dem critter out. All you can do with a wild ass is whip it's back. They will thank you in the end.

      Truly all of the data is an endless burden to review and demands much work to carry it all around like good little donkeys.

      This is our job for free energy, right? Carry around all of the facts, right?

      Well? Keep filling our saddlebags so us good little jack asses with all of our high spirited claims can finally set down under the weight of that load, to the simple life of hailing and honoring "THE KING"

      This is how THE SELF EXISTENT ONE finds out who is thirsty for HIM.

      Folks open mouth insert foot when they ask THESE questions in a manner that shows they consider it generally real easy to answer.

      Mike

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
        Hello Ben

        The way to cut to the chase is find out how you define honest. By who's definition? By the street rats definition mugging a wealth business man for a few bucks while he starves is justice.

        Unless all you folks find out your source for some super special code of mortality questions will never stop. You will question the questions unless you start answering these root ones.

        Take the big one first "Don't kill folks" find out why this is right, correct and where is came from. Don't forget to find out why folks shouldn't kill from this source of yours and so on.

        Keep rehearsing this definition till you exhaust all of the various ways folks define and solve this problem.

        I say problem because some definitions permit the slaughter of others based on a variety of reasons that are considered legit.

        Murder is what should be defined and who is making the rules for killing.

        Today an eye for an eye type Law does not exist so we can forget drowning in endless chatter about how killers should be killed, it don't happen.

        Killers go free, we know that. That is not the point, we all know better than this, BUT HOW?


        HUMM..............

        Mike
        Hi Mike.
        With honest I meant "don't lie". Not immoral or a-social behavior. apparently it is OK to lie as long you're not in court. This is so wrong, there should be big penalties on telling people lies in order to get them to buy something, or vote on you or get them to your church etc..

        I changed 'Thy shall not kill" as this implies 'it is OK to beat the **** out of somebody'?
        So I feel it should be changed in 'don't harm anybody'.

        Don't steal. People should not have to live behind locked doors or afraid when walking the streets late at night.

        3 simple rules that should be punished when broken intentionally.

        On the other hand, the governments should make sure that: free and unpolluted water is available to everybody; help is given to those that need it; taxes are fair; etc..

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        • #49
          Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

          Killers go free, we know that. That is not the point, we all know better than this, BUT HOW?


          HUMM..............

          Mike
          There is only one way, not to be afraid of what you might find in your persistent and honest quest for the ultimate truth.

          In a speech to University College (1903), KelvinKelvin, as cited in Yahya 2002). (Lord Kelvin (MillikanDarwin, Einstein, and PlanckChristian AnfinsenI think only an idiot can be an atheistAnfinsenMaxwellMaxwellBacon 1875, 64).

          Commenting on the first verse of the Bible in Chicago Daily News(12 April 1936), Arthur ComptonComptonDarwinJ. P. Sartre SchroedingerPlanckPlanckArthur Eddington (1928)

          I maintain knowledge of the existence of God as the most certain and obvious of all! Descartes
          Last edited by cikljamas; 04-27-2014, 07:42 PM.
          "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
            @cikljamas

            Great job whipping the kids with all of the historical data concerning how each figure tries to get one leg up and the next guy. They don't add up. There is always some ridiculous flaw in their doctrines.

            So every person that wants to brush onto this subject does not realize that it is more involved than pulsing a coil of wire or collecting the suns rays.

            Once they find out that this discussion requires more research than all of the other studies combined they will throw up their hands and quit.

            What you are doing needs to be done as you get many main points as stated by others throughout history. A+

            Wear dem critter out. All you can do with a wild ass is whip it's back. They will thank you in the end.

            Truly all of the data is an endless burden to review and demands much work to carry it all around like good little donkeys.

            This is our job for free energy, right? Carry around all of the facts, right?

            Well? Keep filling our saddlebags so us good little jack asses with all of our high spirited claims can finally set down under the weight of that load, to the simple life of hailing and honoring "THE KING"

            This is how THE SELF EXISTENT ONE finds out who is thirsty for HIM.

            Folks open mouth insert foot when they ask THESE questions in a manner that shows they consider it generally real easy to answer.

            Mike
            @ Mike, you are the man!

            What people (philosophically uneducated) do not understand is that there is no place for (seriously) doubting God's existence, God's existence is more than certain, His existence is philosophically 100 % proved. God's existence is precondition (preceded existence) of any possible existence, old Greeks knew that very well, because they were passionate thinkers. Anyone who engage his mind in deep philosophical thinking can not fail to find ultimate ontological truth which is that Absolute Being (as such) can not - not to be, the essence of Absolute Being is To Be, Absolute is the Essence, Absolute is Being!!!

            It is just the matter of philosophical education, nothing more than that!

            "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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            • #51
              Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl - Philospher's Song - YouTube
              Monty Python - Eric the Half-a-Bee (1972) - YouTube

              Yes there is the east slowly swallowing up Africa, ask who? what? when? where? why? The answer to that is the start of the solution. Just one small who is George Soros, what is resources, where is everywhere now and why is global domination and power. GS has also financed the colour revolutions but remember he is just one of many.

              AlCIAda (list of CIA and MI5 operatives) are all over the middle east, and are uneducated fanatics for the most part, operating uprisings to destabilise the rule of law/religion. Look who is financing and supplying them and for sure they are running them too.

              CIA and MI5 plus the rest of the alphabet secret agencies all over the world, do not work for the government of their respective countries, and operate ouitside of law. We accept it, WHY? Who do they work for?

              The Ukraine is now balkanized with the US and the former communist block squaring up for war.

              I think these are worth spending more of our time on.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                What people (philosophically uneducated) do not understand is that there is no place for (seriously) doubting God's existence, God's existence is more than certain, His existence is philosophically 100 % proved. God's existence is precondition (preceded existence) of any possible existence, old Greeks knew that very well, because they were passionate thinkers. Anyone who engage his mind in deep philosophical thinking can not fail to find ultimate ontological truth which is that Absolute Being (as such) can not - not to be, the essence of Absolute Being is To Be, Absolute is the Essence, Absolute is Being!!!

                It is just the matter of philosophical education, nothing more than that!


                "There is no God but Allah"
                BOMBSHELL: Obama Wears Ring 30+ Years: 'There Is No God But Allah' - YouTube


                Al

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                  So Jaweh, Allah, the Lord are one and the same.
                  Nowadays there are scientist that claim that energy and god are the same.
                  So what is there left to fight about

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by mbrownn View Post
                    Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl - Philospher's Song - YouTube
                    Monty Python - Eric the Half-a-Bee (1972) - YouTube

                    Yes there is the east slowly swallowing up Africa, ask who? what? when? where? why? The answer to that is the start of the solution. Just one small who is George Soros, what is resources, where is everywhere now and why is global domination and power. GS has also financed the colour revolutions but remember he is just one of many.

                    AlCIAda (list of CIA and MI5 operatives) are all over the middle east, and are uneducated fanatics for the most part, operating uprisings to destabilise the rule of law/religion. Look who is financing and supplying them and for sure they are running them too.

                    CIA and MI5 plus the rest of the alphabet secret agencies all over the world, do not work for the government of their respective countries, and operate ouitside of law. We accept it, WHY? Who do they work for?

                    The Ukraine is now balkanized with the US and the former communist block squaring up for war.

                    I think these are worth spending more of our time on.
                    We believe that there is no absolute truth excepting the truth that there is no absolute truth.

                    We believe in the rejection of creeds, And the flowering of individual thought.

                    If chance be the Father of all flesh, disaster is his rainbow in the sky and when you hear

                    State of Emergency! Sniper Kills Ten! Troops on Rampage! Whites go Looting! Bomb Blasts School! It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker.

                    We can sing a song but who are we going to worship, the sun (that shines) or God who is Light of the heavens and the earth?

                    Rejecting the beneficial transcendent moral authority of the Bible, which provides liberty with its necessary limits, with the immutable holy Creator as God, not the created, the objectively baseless morality of secularism promotes everyone doing what it right in his own eyes (contra. Dt. 12:8), resulting in the most morally confused generation America has ever raised, open to the ever morphing degrees of immorality, with gaining carnal pleasures, possessions and prestige being exalted, and leaders who "by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Rm. 16:18).

                    This paradigmatic change may be seen to have manifestly begun with the 60's sexual revolution, which the Left sees as a success, while we reap the fruits of its corruption. But Jesus does save sinners.

                    I can only remind us all once again to these words: http://www.energeticforum.com/254609-post19.html

                    From croatian Brodway:

                    "What is going to be with us tomorrow"

                    "Green meadow of our dreams" (of permanent world peace)
                    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                      We believe that there is no absolute truth excepting the truth that there is no absolute truth.

                      We believe in the rejection of creeds, And the flowering of individual thought.

                      If chance be the Father of all flesh, disaster is his rainbow in the sky and when you hear

                      State of Emergency! Sniper Kills Ten! Troops on Rampage! Whites go Looting! Bomb Blasts School! It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker.

                      We can sing a song but who are we going to worship, the sun (that shines) or God who is Light of the heavens and the earth?

                      Rejecting the beneficial transcendent moral authority of the Bible, which provides liberty with its necessary limits, with the immutable holy Creator as God, not the created, the objectively baseless morality of secularism promotes everyone doing what it right in his own eyes (contra. Dt. 12:8), resulting in the most morally confused generation America has ever raised, open to the ever morphing degrees of immorality, with gaining carnal pleasures, possessions and prestige being exalted, and leaders who "by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Rm. 16:18).

                      This paradigmatic change may be seen to have manifestly begun with the 60's sexual revolution, which the Left sees as a success, while we reap the fruits of its corruption. But Jesus does save sinners.

                      I can only remind us all once again to these words: http://www.energeticforum.com/254609-post19.html

                      From croatian Brodway:

                      "What is going to be with us tomorrow"

                      "Green meadow of our dreams" (of permanent world peace)
                      These days I believe nothing, I trust nothing, I know what I have learned and I know what is in my heart. The truth is, one must have an open mind in all things that you don't know, but don't believe it just because someone says it, because it may not be true. I'm not saying don't have faith, I'm saying don't have blind faith. I believe in humanity as it has demonstrated good, and I am calling on those who have seen what I have seen to speak to others, so that others can learn it themselves.

                      Now I have finished preaching the good will, lets get down to what makes a difference. I am not distracted. Don't comply with something that you know to be bad. Speak out against injustices and stand up for what is right. As I have pointed out before it is easy to do.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
                        So Jaweh, Allah, the Lord are one and the same.
                        Nowadays there are scientist that claim that energy and god are the same.
                        So what is there left to fight about

                        Secrets of the Criminal Mind - Scientific American

                        Al

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                        • #57
                          How on earth did you get from religions to psychopaths?

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                          • #58
                            Politicians and world leaders have been shown to have psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies. Inbreeding, a common practice in the ruling elites, also causes this type of behaviour.

                            It may seem somewhat off the wall, but it is relevant.

                            Check out the history of the royal families. I think you may have heard of the behaviour of Caligula, if not check it out. naaay lass what a fine mare you are

                            Sociopaths are also more likely to be child abusers, check out British politics. This tenancy, if discovered by the elites, is then used as a method of control via blackmail. Often young politicians get huge financial backing from the elites, enabling them to get into power. Ask your self, when considering the very high incidence of paedophiles in the British political and legal systems, could the two be related?

                            I forgot to mention the catholic church
                            Last edited by mbrownn; 04-28-2014, 05:07 PM.

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                            • #60
                              Satanism

                              Originally posted by mbrownn View Post
                              Politicians and world leaders have been shown to have psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies. Inbreeding, a common practice in the ruling elites, also causes this type of behaviour.

                              It may seem somewhat off the wall, but it is relevant.

                              Check out the history of the royal families. I think you may have heard of the behaviour of Caligula, if not check it out. naaay lass what a fine mare you are

                              Sociopaths are also more likely to be child abusers, check out British politics. This tenancy, if discovered by the elites, is then used as a method of control via blackmail. Often young politicians get huge financial backing from the elites, enabling them to get into power. Ask your self, when considering the very high incidence of paedophiles in the British political and legal systems, could the two be related?

                              I forgot to mention the catholic church

                              The first thing a good high level satanist does is to find out what the order of GOD is and reverse it, so if God says a Man should be paied up with a woman then the Satanist seeks out forms of sex magick that violates THE LAW.

                              These Elite TELL us that they worship Lucifer. THEY TELL YOU THIS. They don't hide it. The masonic order emanates from Bohemian Grove near San Francisco where every year these Elite so called men go to bed with each other to gain power in the spirit.

                              I know what it sounds like and you are right, NUTS!!!

                              These Elite bring in other men from one of the largest gay cities in the world for servicing themselves in honor to their gOd Looie (Lucid) and most of all to directly flip of the ALMIGHTY to HIS FACE.

                              That is the whole point. Branch to the nose or stick it.

                              If a high level devil worshiper is going to gain wealth and position he must do whatever it takes to get it.

                              Drinking huge amounts of alcohol to imbalance the LAWS of the human Body and mind to keep proper order in the blood.

                              Whatever GOD says, do the opposite and you will have power.

                              God says don't have sex with your brothers and sisters so a good follower of the 33rd will seek to engage them.

                              God says men should not lay with other men so a good follower will find a boy friend and so on.

                              Just look for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_PUYtkZBc


                              If folks can't find God then find these guys first then you will see.

                              Mike

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