Question - Radiant Energy Battery charging using an aerial

[john_g]

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NikolaTesla

Thanks for the link - nice looking site - will check it out.

John

[Splitwater]

Coax Cable may be your problem!

Coax Cable is shielded, to prevent stray radiation from altering the signal on same.

So, maybe you need a refresher course in Electronics, at night.
Or, study Solar Cells more.

[road toad]

same thing only different


Someone got a patent, in 1981, or so, they hooked up vertical sails, like a vertical tail on an airplane, covered with aluminum foil. the aluminum was isolated from ground. Several were used. with the + sides in series, the ground sides were tied together. It was aerodynamic, with a typical aircraft cross section.
A pivot wheel was placed in the ground under each sail. This was to keep the sails pointing into the wind, to cdollect the optimum amount of static electricity
The idea was to collect static electricity. store it in batteries, regulator. etc., invert, run your house, etc.
They even had the whole thing calculated out.
With 10, 10 ft. sails, 10 ft. wide, you could suppossedly collect enough to run a normal household.
Anyone that's been around aircraft, and seen the static dischargers on the flying surfaces, probably realizes how much power could be developed, if they took those dischargers off.

[chisshay]

Do you hav a link to this info. thx

[C_J]

Hi John,

welcome aboard

I believe there's a misconception regarding aerials and capturing RE, if you are refering to the Tesla's patent that is. He actually had a source of aetheric stream - his Transformer that is.

From my limited understanding, Radiant Energy (RE) is not accessible on its own or else we'd be home free long ago

RE is "entangled" with normal electrons and in order to get to it one must fraction that connection. Tesla did that through abrupt discharges on his magnetic gap disrupter, feeding the purified aetheric stream to his "special primary" or to any variaty of beamtubes he constructed for focusing and directing the aetheric stream. The aerial (the plate in the patent) actually received that directed stream and converts it to electron current usable on a load.

There was a discussion among some minds of that time about utilizing pure dielectric fields (heavily charged capacitor plates) to tap into aether flows, but because there was no material capable of interrupting the aetheric currents it was never practically resolved.

Not sure if this helped or not. Perhaps you want to look into works of Thomas Henry Moray who did use aerials as well...though no one had much success replicating those either.

Even-though this post is dated, I want to correct it as I see this thread is still alive. I hate to see people get misinformed. At least someone will be informed.

Tesla actually mentioned about receiving radiant energy from natural sources such as Sun. Following are his words.
"....The rays or radiations which are to be utilized for the operation of the apparatus above discussed in general terms may be derived from a natural source, as the sun, or may be artificially produced by such means, ..."

Source: Tesla's Patent No:685,958 dated November 5, 1901. (Page 3, line 15)

I think people should pay very close attention to patent details when trying to use it.

Thanks,
CJ

[Gav]

cj, i do not mean to put you down but you need to do some more research on this, what you have highlighted is actually correct and it is you that are missleading people

[Gav]

the antenna is not doing anything but catching the static charge that the earth naturally creates, scalar rays i think they are?, so the plate does not have to be faced in a curtain direction, having a large surface area is most important of all to have a strong flow, all it has to do is be exposed to the elements, this reaction is stronger at night and in bad weather, especially thunder storms (i disconnect mine in storms haha it scares me) so if you want to gather sun energy you may as well just get a sloar pannel, the thing is to amplify what you have collected, the stream of flowing energy from the earth is only small but can be amplifyed after storing it in a capacitor like device (not a normal cap, more like a coil or,tesla also stated that 1 possible way is to use a conductive oil with plates incerted) you then need to work out what way you woud like to extract your energy by means of amplification

[Gav]

also remember that tesla uses a shorting circuit to run alot of his motors

[C_J]

cj, i do not mean to put you down but you need to do some more research on this, what you have highlighted is actually correct and it is you that are missleading people

I have given the source of information, anyone can read the Patent them-self.

Source: Tesla's Patent No:685,958 dated November 5, 1901. (Page 3, line 15)
Patent US685958 - NIKOLA TESLA - Google Patents

Gav, I do not see what you mean or where I'm wrong. Please clarify.

[Gav]

it has very little to do with the sun, it is a reaction that happens on the surface of a material that we are trying to collect, this method works best at night and bad weather, if it was energy from the sun we wanted it would be alot easyer to just set up a solar pannel, the info you high lighted is very correct, patients can be very hard to read, and missleading if your not sure what they mean by what they say

[C_J]

it has very little to do with the sun, it is a reaction that happens on the surface of a material that we are trying to collect, this method works best at night and bad weather, if it was energy from the sun we wanted it would be alot easyer to just set up a solar pannel, the info you high lighted is very correct, patients can be very hard to read, and missleading if your not sure what they mean by what they say

So you men you know better than Tesla

Did you read the Patent?

Solar Panel works based of Sunlight, only during daytime.

But radiant energy panels works day & night.

If yours work best only at night & during bad weather, that only means you have not setup it just as Tesla described.

[Gav]

tesla actually said " from the sun and other radiant energys" not just the sun, the sun has the worst efect on it but will still produce some energy, just not as much as in the night. i have upto 8.5dcv at times, and the best readings are of night, in the day the lowest ive seen it was 2.5dcv,this is with out capacitors, its just a heap of wire,i can short it out and the voltage is still there, i must be doing something right, what are you getting? 0.3v? good for you, oh and check it 2-3 in the morning and i bet its twice what it is in the day, i was trying to help you but now, you can find out the hard way, later
Gav

[Gav]

So you men you know better than Tesla


If yours work best only at night & during bad weather, that only means you have not setup it just as Tesla described.

this proves you dont know what your talking about, go do some more research into it, if your nice about it i my help you but its not looking good

[C_J]

Dear Gav,

I only tried to prove a point. But it looks like it's beyond me.

As you asked about what I get;

I had setup 2 insulated aluminium plates 33 feet up in the air.
I get 29V on each plate day & night in any weather condition.

I got all my technical information from;
Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices - Chapter 7

and I followed instructions properly.

Now it reminds me what Jes Ascanius mentioned on the forum.
"No one ever does as one tells"

It's good reading, post #20 on following link;

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/10947-jes-ascanius-radiant-collector.html#post188151

I do not want to go in to any further arguments, so I will stop it here.

Thanks

[Gav]

is that 29v in a capacitor? or 29v live? if its in a cap it will not fluctuate, so i guess your talking about stored energy in a capacitor, it is a well known fact that this device will fluctuate, im not using caps or anything yet, im trying to get the best readings i can then i will be thinking of storing it, i was never trying to start an argument, what you quoted and said was missinformed is actually really good information about how it works, have you ever researched into what it is your trying to gain, how its formed, how it reacts, how you can use it to your advantage? theres alot more to it then just reading a patient
amigo seems like a very intelligent person, i would be listening to what he is saying