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  • #91
    Save your time and money. It's been tried hundreds of times and it doesn't work. The simple "law" that says by merely running flux through the core of a coil will produce electrical energy is WRONG! The MEG is also a fraud.

    Ted

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    • #92
      Sorry of my ignorance but you say that transformer olso cant work. I dont think so

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      • #93
        I apologies to Jetijs for spamming this trade

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        • #94
          no need to apologize
          Ted has made numerous experiments on this subject over the years, I trust his opinion. Ted, can you please elaborate on the subject a little more so that it isn't just plain "it can not work" thing. Just as you did on your forum talking about all the phase difference that matters and not flux strength itself.
          It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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          • #95
            Thank you Jetijs . I m only "junior" member of this forum. What i wont to say is ,MEG is not simple to built to rich cop over 1.(maybe impossible).But builders must tray one crucial thing, input coils MUST never "see" the output load.In parallel path motor you don't have output load (coils) and that a reason way motor have same current consumption with different mechanical load And yes I tray

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
              no need to apologize
              Ted has made numerous experiments on this subject over the years, I trust his opinion. Ted, can you please elaborate on the subject a little more so that it isn't just plain "it can not work" thing. Just as you did on your forum talking about all the phase difference that matters and not flux strength itself.

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              • #97
                Sorry but I don't understand this. In school I learn that change in magnetic flux create electricity in coil. In parallel path device you have flux change in said bars and therefore if you have coil on bar you produce voltage. Another thing is when you wont use electricity off pickup coil you create another magnetic field who is opposite to and you have affection on primary coil (input coil) simple transformer theory. That is reason why this MEG have cop<1.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by zhorv324 View Post
                  Sorry but I don't understand this. In school I learn that change in magnetic flux create electricity in coil. In parallel path device you have flux change in said bars and therefore if you have coil on bar you produce voltage. Another thing is when you wont use electricity off pickup coil you create another magnetic field who is opposite to and you have affection on primary coil (input coil) simple transformer theory. That is reason why this MEG have cop<1.
                  Why don't you build one, and find out for yourself if what you learned in school is correct. See if your academic theory holds up to reality. I got $100.00 that says it won't work. Easy money if Faraday was right.

                  Ted

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                  • #99
                    Thanks Ted,

                    This was certainly informative. I have found some interesting effects in high frequency electrical currents, which seem to resonate with the Aether.

                    What is interesting that I have observed in my experiments, is that when you move up to the 100KHz range, the current just bites you, and is transferred with only one wire. It's quality changes so much. The amp-meter goes mad, and shows about 10A when only one lead is connected. In short, the output from the transformer, does not make conventional sense any more. I wonder if you have observed anything unusual you would like to share.

                    Elias
                    Last edited by elias; 02-02-2010, 06:29 AM.
                    Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                    http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                    • What exactly are the b and h fields? I googled but don't think I know enough to get google to give me good links.

                      This page has some info, but presupposes prior knowledge.

                      Permanent Magnet Design Guidelines
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • This is my last post about MEG in this thread,and I don't wont to argue with any van.About 2 years ago I started to work on parallel path device with simple static device to prove theory(and that was succeed).After that I put the coil on sade bars off parallel path device and tray several experiment. Final conclusion was the "parallel path MEG" is NOT POSIBLE.Simply words say you cannot eliminate influence off load to input coils.or my input coils always "see" load on pickup coil. MY best result was COP=0,85. That is reason way I decide to build parallel path motor and put MEG away! In parallel path motor drive coil cant see the mechanical load and therefore current remain same in wild range off RPM.I must say , in my motor COP is <1, and reson may be diferent(bad building, big air gap ,mechanical lose , saturation off core , bad coil , controler and cet.).But I still tray and sam day I maybe sucside. In that time I learn many thing about motor ,magnetic flux, electronics(controlers)and that only important.I still be on this tread and maybe help Jetijs with motor

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                        • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                          What exactly are the b and h fields? I googled but don't think I know enough to get google to give me good links.

                          This page has some info, but presupposes prior knowledge.

                          Permanent Magnet Design Guidelines
                          The B and H fields roughly correspond to current and voltage in electrical terms. One is pressure and the other is current flow. I don't remember which is which because I don't think in those terms, and it doesn't matter. I use them because they are the common parlance.
                          This subject is vital to an understanding of how energy is generated electromechanically. I'm starting to think this part is left out of the textbooks on purpose. The reason I say this is because if anyone figures out how to alter the phase of the magnetic pressure and the current in a generating device, without movement, they'll have free electrical energy forever. Somebody needs to find the magnetic equivalent of an inductor. Then the MEG would work.

                          Ted

                          BTW, the Bearden version of the MEG is a red herring. We all need to wonder why.

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                          • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                            What exactly are the b and h fields? I googled but don't think I know enough to get google to give me good links.

                            This page has some info, but presupposes prior knowledge.

                            Permanent Magnet Design Guidelines
                            This page explains it:
                            Magnetic field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            /Hob
                            Hob Nilre
                            http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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                            • Originally posted by Ted Ewert View Post
                              Somebody needs to find the magnetic equivalent of an inductor.

                              Ted
                              Whoa.....That got my wheels turning........hook me up if you find it before I do.......

                              edit....

                              Which inductor characteristics are you referring to? I am thinking that there are already several materials which fit the bill if we are simply referencing the inductors charge/discharge characteristic.....

                              Regards
                              Last edited by erfinder; 02-02-2010, 05:58 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by nenadilic84 View Post
                                What can I say, after following your work in the Electric Motor Secrets thread, I expected this. Excellent!!

                                Two questions:
                                1.Is this the circuit you have used but without recovery?

                                2.Did you measure the mechanical output?

                                Regards,
                                Nenad
                                Hi everyone,

                                I am new here and I am very impressed with the way you made the engine and how you resented it.

                                Where do you find this schematic?

                                thanks a lot
                                Last edited by DrMabuzo; 02-02-2010, 06:59 PM.

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