The Physics of the Primary State of Matter

[barbosi]

Again, this is the most appropriate thread to recommend this:
http://engineering.curiouscatblog.ne...ith-your-kids/

Not to buy but to experiment and ponder.

Regards.

[Vortex]

Keely Machines

Images : Keely's Machines

[barbosi]

Michael Faraday on the Structure of the Aether, and the Nature of Action-At-A-Distance

[Vortex]

Love that Carbon

Some proof that structure as well as carbon effects energy as I see it in building battery cells.
Carbon is the 3rd leg of Primary Physics.

My source of carbon is home made charcoal that is crushable with the fingers
into extremely fine power, made via my woodgas stove.

The crushed carbon (charcoal) is effective but not AS effective if it has not
been crushed leading one to determine that the structure of the charcoal as
is (not crushed) is a major factor in energy production.

Example, note in all examples the charcoal is DRY.

A 1/2" galvanized metal screw wrapped in toilet paper. Salt water is applied to
the paper, hereafter called GTP.
GTP reads 0.5 volt and 0.5 milliamp.

When a copper wire is wrapped around the paper the volts and amps increase , hereafter called GTPC
This results in about 0.8 volt reading and about 0.7 milliamp.

The GTP touching a sliver of charcoal about 3/16" thick and 1/2" long will read 0.9 volt and 1.4 milliamp.
A 3 fold increase in amps over the copper wire above.

GTP touching a chunk of charcoal about 7/8" wide by 3/4" long reads
almost 1 volt and 6.5 milliamp, over 8 times the amps using copper wire.
Each time you put a configuration together you can get a different reading
and working with lumps of charcoal isn't that easy.
I obtained as low as 0.88 volts and 3.5 to 4.5 milliamp readings.
Taking this configuration and dipping it into a cup of salt water, not soaking the charcoa,l but
dipping it resulted in a reading of about the same volts but an increase in amps of 6.5 to 7 milliamp.

GTP touching the top of crushed charcoal in a coffee filter, 2" x 3" x 3/8" with copper wire inside to close the connection.
Reads just over 1 volt and 0.1 milliamp
YES that's correct! The highest voltage but the lowest amps.
Go figure ?

After putting salt water top and bottom of the coffee filter the
readings where 0.99 volts and 5 milliamp

Remember all charcoal is dry in the above readings and the was
just touching the paper and not surrounding it.
Only the toilet paper around the galvanized metal screw was wet with salt water.
Crushed charcoal needs to be wet (at least damp) or it is about useless.
All amp readings were spot readings, not continuous readings.

Aluminum foil is great to work with, gives a little less volts/amps than galvanized metal.
It seems you need more of it, surface area wise, to obtain the same amps.
Aluminum foil will totally disintegrate very quickly if using anything but just water.

I do not know how long galvanized metal will hold up using salt water.
I've not done long term tests. It has to last a lot longer than the foil does.
It has a large surface area compared to its size.

This is very impressive results for such a SMALL galvanized metal screw.

I hope someone can validate my findings here.
It is more awkward than it is hard to do.
I wish to correct this posting if my meter proves to be faulty.
Maybe store purchased BBQ charcoal would show relatively similar results?
I do not have any, do not need any or otherwise I would have tested that already.

Carbon does increase amp output as well as voltage.


Randy

[Inquorate]

Batteries

Sounds like a great line of research for home made batteries..

Could they be charged again after they go 'flat'?

[Vortex]

Sounds like a great line of research for home made batteries..

Could they be charged again after they go 'flat'?

Everything else I've tried, without carbon, has been a battle to obtain
the same results each time and getting amps is very hard without carbon.
I tried charging previous Aluminum can/copper cells with mixed results ..
mostly it did not work.
My hope is to build something which can be replaced (like the screw), if
it can be charged great, but being able to charge the cells isn't the goal.
A useful cell worth while making is the goal.
The big deal is keeping it wet, that's the hard part.

[Bodkins]

Vortex
I have really big bits of G from the kids beds, the idea is to do a big burn down allotment to get the carbon.(looking for a barrel)Well done on the research

Now im a gardener right, and the thing i now is that potash is good for potatos its lowers the ph (power of hydrogen and Hydrogen is the chemical element with atomic number 1 Nonmetal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Also i use a plant called comfrey that take the nitrogen out of the air which I see the nitrogen as part of the moving away from H to O (PP)

And Agricultural lime(The primary source of the calcite in limestone is most commonly marine organisms) will up the ph to grow veg, So the lime is organic livinig matter.

Interesting Fact:Limelight
in the Victorian days at the theatre they use to heat up bits of limestome which would give off White light!! Are you in the limelight?


So what we have is a movement from H to O for all matter.
BUT organic matter has crystal stucture inbeded in it.
I remember reading that someone got a bit of zinc hanging in a pyramid with smaller pyramids at the base focusing the energy on the zinc and after 3 week all you have of the zinc is a pile calicum!

read Arrons first post http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...attery-sg.html


Im not really saying anything here just pointing to the links!!
but i think the EB needs to be chargeup first.
Ben do you remember my old video of the pumping the ground?
pumping the earth ball up(EBU) and the wave come back.

Bx

Im at work randy! allday

[Vortex]

Vortex
I have really big bits of G from the kids beds, the idea is to do a big burn down allotment to get the carbon.(looking for a barrel)Well done on the research

Now im a gardener right, and the thing i now is that potash is good for potatos its lowers the ph (power of hydrogen and Hydrogen is the chemical element with atomic number 1 Nonmetal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Also i use a plant called comfrey that take the nitrogen out of the air which I see the nitrogen as part of the moving away from H to O (PP)

And Agricultural lime(The primary source of the calcite in limestone is most commonly marine organisms) will up the ph to grow veg, So the lime is organic livinig matter.

Interesting Fact:Limelight
in the Victorian days at the theatre they use to heat up bits of limestome which would give off White light!! Are you in the limelight?


So what we have is a movement from H to O for all matter.
BUT organic matter has crystal stucture inbeded in it.
I remember reading that someone got a bit of zinc hanging in a pyramid with smaller pyramids at the base focusing the energy on the zinc and after 3 week all you have of the zinc is a pile calicum!

read Arrons first post http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...attery-sg.html


Im not really saying anything here just pointing to the links!!
but i think the EB needs to be chargeup first.
Ben do you remember my old video of the pumping the ground?
pumping the earth ball up(EBU) and the wave come back.

Bx

Im at work randy! allday

Pumped, Avramenko's plug, pulsed.
The battery cell, with carbon, (new topic) would do better if it was pumped/pulsed.
The EB is low on amps and ok on volts.
The carbon cell has some high amps and low on volts.
Hook the two together ???????????????????

Richard, I have not looked at the links yet, I will do that now.
I am going to re-read you post too.. now.
Limelight (LIGHT?)

[Bodkins]

the Aether is a carbon static stressfield.

then carbon is the H and the O in this dimension not static but fixed to matter.
take the two apart, basicly take the two parts back in time you get Fire and Air stressfields
So carbon is the middle ground, lime/magnesium(Magnesium in biology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) is the organic matter

What salt you use sea or table?

[Vortex]

Table salt, with so many unknowns in exploration of something, using sea salt
would add in additional unknowns into the mix.
As an example, the cell I made which was pumping out 0.8 volt and
metered 20+ milliamps is now reading 0.5 volt / 6.5 millivolt.
So it is a wire contact issue, zinc is use up issue, lack of salt issue, face of charcoal is used up or none of the above.
Easiest thing to try was add a couple of drops of salt water..
The Cell was plenty wet already .. but the salt could be lacking.

Whoops.. I just realized I was dipping my straw (for transporting salt water)
into my coffee cup instead of the salt water cup.
I introduced an unknown
I was wondering why I was not getting back my AMPs but the volts were rising good.
Coffee is acidic and will cause a response in a cell, just not as good as the salt water.
My coffee is weak and I've tried it before on cells.
The reading now, after using salt water, is 0.8 v and 10+ milliamp..
but that does not last long.
This were I'm talking about pulsing it.. if you hook up and load the cell it
can drain .. but if you take a little, take a little, take a little it has a chance to regain energy.
When you first meter a cell it displays the largest amps then and falls off from there. This cell hangs in there better than most others I've seen.

I've tried Magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt) before without a noticeable difference. I will have to try it again with the carbon.

just

[Bodkins]

Randy
YouTube - NWF4601 - Pt 1 of 6 - The Concept of the Living Water and the Love Frequency of 528 Hertz

[Bodkins]

hope your still alive randy

CORAL CASTLE CODE / JON DEPEW / FORMULA of ENERGY

YouTube - JONDEPEW's Channel

The Illustrations on this webpage are based strictly on
a Visual Formula I discovered in the writings of Ed Leedskalnin, builder of Coral Castle , the multi-ton coral structure in Homestead Florida. The beauty in these designs lie within the Formula itself , it is a real Formula with a message that could change mankind.
This Visual Formula is the hidden blueprint of natures magnetic currents of structure and creation, there is also another underlying pattern within this code that are known as ley lines or (neutral energy distribution lines). They are the true atom builders. Science is misled and off track. Note: The patterns on this page were all made in a straight forward & scientific manner , these illustrations represent the interaction between two individual North and South magnetic currents. Ed Leedskalnin left a subtle visual design on his book "MAGNETIC CURRENT" this tiny clue that Ed Leedskalnin left us has unraveled into the answers of our Universe's greatest mysteries . All true Sacred Geometry "SQUARING THE CIRCLE", "PHI" ,"Golden Section", the "HOLY GRAIL" are really representing 2 Individual MAGNETIC CURRENTS. There is NO such thing as an ELECTRON or Electron cloud as it is presently perceived. The electron cloud is caused by the "disturbance" of the steady state nucleus of an atom by bombarding it with neutrons(Individual Magnets) in the used methods/techniques of atomic observations.

Science is misled and is also misleading millions of others everyday , in every school. These inaccurate conclusions of electrons are causing more harm than good for humanity in many ways. I hope to help change this by sharing this visual Message that Ed left for all of us. You will find out in the end ... it is the true beginning

[barbosi]

Sweet sixteen?

Used also to generate electricity:

[Vortex]

I'm here Richard.
I watched The Concept of the Living Water and the Love Frequency of 528 Hertz
all 6 parts when you posted it and it has value.

JON DEPEW's web site and videos I had seen before and has value also.

My research has been focused upon non-energy things.
Free energy would be nice, but it seems far less important or useful than
other knowledge in view of the current environment.

I sometimes ask myself: "Is this my own personal matrix?'
Am I the only one experiencing this.
I keep getting blown away week after week by these facts.
No one I personally talk to seems to think this revised (untaught) history
is important. Or maybe they are like deer in the highlights, unable to take it in, follow up or else just think I'm crazy but say nothing.

There is so much disinformation.
More information is just missing the mark in that it did not
draw down upon the root cause, speaks of only the effects and
skipped off like a stone upon the water.
Leaving those people with misunderstanding.

[Bodkins]

brothers

I too have that feeling Randy, but its the prophets that give me strenght,
christ, muhamdi, soloman,moses,hermes
Under One god,
the quran is opening new doors not of a different message but the same. one god to pray to. build a temple too him the one in all.

disinformation is the Jin(demon)in the ego it is the fire we live with always but the blind do not see it, feel it,
in my job i see the wrong the prophet have forbiden, and this has turned us into live stock,
to feed the backward flow of energy,
barbosi
gandhi is my hero, its my fav film of all time I have just started reading his work, and i wish to live has he did,
Im in the process of claiming my right as a sonship not freeman it is the same thing but i feel better about it

The Hymns of Hermes The Gnosis Archive: Document Not Found...
its just atfer the A TRIPLE TRISAGION its says...."Holy art Thou, O God, Who willeth to be known and art known by Thine own."

The Will of God is Gnostic; He wills to be known. The Divine Purpose is consummated in Self-knowledge. God is knowable, but only by "His own," that is by the Divine Sonship, as Basilides, the Christian Gnostic, calls it, or by the Race of the Sons of God, as Philo and our Gnostics and others of the same period phrase it.

The Sonship is a Race, and not an individual, because they of the Sonship have ceased from separation and have made "surrender of themselves to Powers, and thus becoming Powers they are in God." They are one with another, no longer separated one from another and using divided senses and organs; for they constitute the Intelligible Word or Reason (Logos) which is also the Intelligible World (Kosmos) or Order of all things.