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  • #31
    I can see it too ......

    Very Good Vibes here
    To be able to actually show what Mr.Tesla was planning on doing a century ago at the museum site .[A wee Demmo]

    I believe he did say something about the future ,

    Could there be a more fitting location or venue to show just how wonderful/brilliant this man really was.

    Oh this is gonna be fun, dr.Green your "little Demmo"
    Is of course a fabulous suggestion.

    -----------------
    When I speak with my friend tomorrow ,I will explore the possibility of a meeting with the architects family,I think I'll bring him with me out to the site as well.
    Thx
    Chet
    If you want to Change the world
    BE that change !!

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    • #32
      Its good to see we are getting motivated here

      Demo's are always better, lets do it.

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      • #33
        Contacts:

        Jane Alcorn
        Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe
        Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe
        phone: (631) 929-8685
        jalcorn@TeslaScienceCenter.org
        P.O. Box 552
        Shoreham, NY 11786 (USA)


        So, apparently they will be needing someone to do the teaching. Some examples or demonstrations of the work that Eric has done with emphasis on how it's different to everyone else but is exactly what Tesla says, along with some light theory to cover the science aspect might do the trick.
        Last edited by dR-Green; 10-13-2012, 03:53 AM.
        http://www.teslascientific.com/

        "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

        "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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        • #34
          i will donate towards his plane ticket.

          Originally posted by Web000x View Post
          If somebody can get the person involved in organizing the Tesla Museum to accept Eric's input, I'll tell Eric the next time that I speak to him and see if he would be interested in the idea. I mentioned something to him before about it, but he thinks that it is probably filled with disinformants so he didn't seem all that interested. If somebody can get the museum developers interested in really listening to Eric's input, he might be more inclined to give it a shot.

          Dave
          if he is going you get a C note from me.

          Tom C
          http://www.teslagenx.com

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          • #35
            Thanks for the number

            @Green
            Thanks for the number
            Just hung up with that "wonderful" Woman.
            I mentioned No Individual whatsoever Nor any "forum".

            I love this woman ,and you fellahs here would also,she champions the cause
            selflessly.

            I told her that we /I will do whatever we can to help raise funds for
            this project.
            I am doing a brief summary of my notes on the call ,and I'm working ATM
            so I'll report back shortly.......

            The vibes are Very Good.........................
            Thx
            Chet
            If you want to Change the world
            BE that change !!

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            • #36
              Clarity

              OK
              I had a nice long chat with Jane ,this world needs a lot more people like Jane.
              A responsible steward of her resources ,ever mindful of the goal!
              I mentioned what I do for a living these days [Service to the community], as well as "Our" interest in the study of alternative energy,and Tesla,in a very proactive way.

              Jane mentioned a big concern at this point is securing the property from vandals as well as trying to figure the best way to utilize their Taxed resources so as to have a safe place to put all the "DONATED EQUIPMENT"
              that people are offering.

              At this point I mentioned my willingness to meet with the many local contractors
              in the NY metro area that I spent most of my life "serving" [some very big players] to see about a little "give back" to the community.[what an easy job that will be]
              very well recieved..........


              Details
              The deal for the site is still "pending", proper transfer of title should
              be around the first of the year [environmental statements ,paper work ETC.]
              perhaps sooner...

              The Family of the architect as well as the last known living family member of Tesla that actually met him are involved and Completely invested in seeing this become a reality.[won't that be a fun Demmo to make !:.] as well as many others I am sure.

              The potential here boggles the mind,I will be jumping in on this end
              in a "service" position ,my ties to the local community as well as history
              with potential contributers/donators will be utilised to the best of my ability.


              We all have a dream here...

              Somebody pinch me!!

              I will be calling back on monday to discuss the proper channels for
              connecting people together.

              My invlovement here will be superficial I will speak for no one with out their permission ,nor intimate anything whatsoever regarding Mr.D { a brief "generic" mention was made to "persons who have dedicated their lives
              researching Telsa and their possible "contributions" towards further study].
              Well recieved also.........

              Fellahs I'm not the brightest man ...and I look for no Fame or Fortune.
              I have chosen a path of service {not religious} I live a very humble existence
              which helps me towards that end [no overhead!:.}

              Yes I do have access to resources to help Mr.D get sorted out /relocate and I would be more than happy to work on this end towards that goal if required.

              Lets do this...............
              Thx
              Chet
              Ps
              As a side note "beware any person who's interest is "financial" or to twist it into some "Business venture".
              I do No part of this for money
              its how I roll..........
              it will not be well recieved.......
              Last edited by RAMSET; 10-13-2012, 03:19 PM.
              If you want to Change the world
              BE that change !!

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              • #37
                No it wouldn't
                Financial models don't work, the present system benefits those who will walk on another to get to the same place. The real work that keeps corporate executives in many areas in such sumptuous surroundings, is done by those who will never experience the same - by design.
                Humanity gains by a realistic fair system, a barter type of mutual benefit model. Best consideration is that Tesla thought the same way, a man without greed.
                The profit is in the production and spreading of real world knowledge. Open Source on a global scale.
                Inventive advancement from the center of Tesla's own vision.

                The vandalism situation can be handled readily. Point a few webcams at the building. No unintentional picture taking of any persons would occur, unless those persons were up to no good.
                To start with - today- an even simpler idea is to produce some signs that point out clearly that security is in place, due to the land now being sold. Security is in place, the signs, to make a vandal wonder if there really is security ! annnd there may be, he doesn't know.
                It needs to happen asap, because I have a hunch that traditionally thinking nefarious global entities may not wish this center to become what it can become. If anything happened, it would be caught and Twitter/Tweeted/FB'd/YouTube'd and all that stuff in the blink of an eye.
                Last edited by Slider2732; 10-13-2012, 05:41 PM.

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                • #38
                  Want to build a flying saucer with me Eric ?

                  As everyone knows Tesla is a hero of mine and the foundations of my work is built upon what he left behind for us to discover.

                  I intend to build my UFO one day, I have completed the power source engine designs based upon the life support properties and manipulation of water phases. Now I await results from those developing my work.

                  I would consider it an honor to build the Mk1 prototype at Wardenclyffe. I would also consider it an honor to work with Eric P. Dollard, if he wishes. Eric has a level of expertise that I feel would be essential in developing electro-magnetic gravitational and propulsion systems.

                  If you want me, I am in...

                  Rob

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                  • #39
                    Nice work Chet, that's very good news. The only "issue" judging by the info on their site is that they say they want it to be an educational science centre, I assume that means general science. On the surface it sounds like the basic model they want is something like this:

                    Education programmes | Education | Techniquest

                    But with a Tesla exhibit as well. Given the conventional Tesla knowledge that's going around they won't really be able to offer anything really scientific and educational from this perspective as opposed to teaching the kids/visitors basic electronics or whatever. So maybe something to emphasise and slowly bring into future conversations with Jane is the possibility of proper education from the Tesla side. I expect that the extent of their Tesla exhibition/educational plans is limited to what they think will be possible to physically manifest as a reality and deliver to the visitors, so as long as "they" can see how it might come about, i.e. it's not just wild speculation, then there's no reason why they won't start thinking "our way" on this.

                    Although I'm focusing on ways to get them to buy into the idea of getting Eric onboard, there's probably a million would-be volunteers who would love to work there and put themselves forward to be the resident Tesla expert, and I have no idea what Eric would have in mind because he'd probably have his own terms and conditions like Dave said, so these are only general suggestions/ideas.
                    http://www.teslascientific.com/

                    "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                    "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                    • #40
                      What needs to happen regarding Eric Dollard is a dialog between himself and the owners of Wardenclyffe. It is likely that both parties will not have the same Ideas and goals but at least some common ground may be found and at that point we have a a position from which a negotiation can begin.

                      If we can introduce them to each other by some means then that is the greatest gift to both sides that we can have.

                      I wish them all well and hope that this can be arranged.

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                      • #41
                        Agreed

                        @dr.Green Thank you....

                        @nbrown

                        Basically that "is" the plan...
                        However
                        I have sensed some strong feelings and opinions from this side of "that" table ,the people on the other side of the table are oblivious to things we take for granted .

                        To even considering putting these two together, with out a serious effort on our part to "prepare the way".

                        Would be a mistake.

                        I would also like to make another obvious point.[a bit tongue in cheek]
                        If at the present time the facility at wardenclyffe does not have plans for
                        Mr,D.
                        We have to change that!!
                        That is our Job!!**[clarity below]

                        I am all to aware of how the best of intentions can be Slaughtered
                        by not preparing or thinking things through,I am also very aware of how unproductive Procrastination can be.

                        We have time here to get things sorted.

                        my comments are in no way trying to intimate I have some kind of understanding that others here lack.

                        I get it.....

                        We take baby steps towards the goal.but we never stop moving forward.

                        And I believe it would be very very wise to make another plan of action at the same time.[as Mark and others have suggested ,wireles one wire etc.]

                        Tesla deserves our Very best efforts ,our kids deserve the knowledge
                        that he brought to us,lets make general science 101 a bit more interesting at
                        Wardenclyffe as a model for classrooms around the globe!

                        Thx
                        Chet
                        PS
                        Rob
                        about that UFO ?
                        Mr. I would love to sweep the floors in the place where that happens [probably the extent of my ability to contribute there].

                        Edit
                        The "job" comment is just a general term for 'preparing the way" .Then the parties involved can decide.....
                        Last edited by RAMSET; 10-14-2012, 02:46 PM.
                        If you want to Change the world
                        BE that change !!

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                        • #42
                          This is what CAN happen to Eric P Dollard.

                          It would be a marvellous day to see Eric standing in the building where Tesla once worked, sniff the ground where he once was. Stand at the base of the Tower & simply mourn its loss. - Then the process of rebuilding the lost knowledge of Tesla can then begin.
                          -This is why we need Eric Dollard -
                          "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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                          • #43
                            To Plant a seed

                            Sputins

                            I like your last Paragraph the most,To stand on the same spot.........

                            The fruit of Tesla's effort comes back to pay tribute!

                            Even if Wardenclyffe turns out to be an inappropriate Venue ,it is good to Know the thought of such a possibility has gotten the wheels turning.

                            Very good indeed.

                            Thx
                            Chet
                            Ps
                            However I do hope it turns out viable ,and then it becomes irresistable..........
                            we shall see ?
                            Last edited by RAMSET; 10-16-2012, 02:38 AM.
                            If you want to Change the world
                            BE that change !!

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                            • #44
                              Thanks

                              RAMSET

                              Just wanted to say I really appreciate what you and others are doing to try and get Eric involved with the project - it would be fantastic for him to be able to share his knowledge there.

                              Regards

                              John

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sputins View Post
                                This is what CAN happen to Eric P Dollard.

                                It would be a marvellous day to see Eric standing in the building where Tesla once worked, sniff the ground where he once was. Stand at the base of the Tower & simply mourn its loss. - Then the process of rebuilding the lost knowledge of Tesla can then begin.
                                -This is why we need Eric Dollard -
                                As far as the history of Eric Dollard goes, Techzombie put together a very good article highlighting some of Eric accomplishments. There are some details that aren't quite correct, but most of them are too small to worry about. The meat of the matter is good. Tesla Round 2, The Case of Eric Dollard However, it should be pointed out that the author equates volts to power, these mistakes don't build a good case. I think that the paper needs to be reviewed by a couple of engineers that have studied Eric's writings to make sure that the inconsistencies are ironed out. I'm sure that techzombie wouldn't have a problem making some edits.

                                Chet, I think you should use this article in your case with Eric becoming involved in Wardynclyff, but make sure that you point out that it is NOT Eric's interpretation of his works but somebody elses. It is a very good intro for the layman.

                                I don't think Eric is opposed to flying. However selling his Corolla is out of the equation. He'd probably lose his mind over the idea of even being presented. His car means a lot to him since he sees it as an engineering accomplishment and not just another expendable piece of junk to be thrown away and replace with new. Did you know that his car has 600,000 miles on it? That's impressive... To answer your other question, I believe very much so that his car would make it from California to New York. He takes very good care of it.

                                While Eric is the most appropriate person to be involved in the up and coming Wardynlclyff Museum, don't count on him changing any part of his personality for it. It seems to me that it will be an all or nothing deal. Either they get Eric's help and let him build something that works or they don't. Eric doesn't hold the Tesla mystique as high as others might so if they don't let him build anything that accurately portrays Tesla Technology, he will say to hell with the museum and continue on his merry way doing what he was doing before. And good luck trying to get Eric to live in NY, he seems to want to be very mobile these days and not tied down to any particular location.

                                I really appreciate everybody inputting idea's towards Eric's involvement. He is rather disappointed that so little manifested from his presence on the forum. Let's show him what can happen when a few people get motivated. Let's get Tesla back!

                                Thank you all,

                                Dave

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