HHO For Vehicles Questions

[Redmeanie]

Red: I'm not sure about the engines you have worked with with but the ones I have seen usually open the exhaust at the bottom of the stroke.

I dont exactly know how to describe it so check this link out. Im thinking of a weed eater motor and it's just like the one used here>>>>http://science.howstuffworks.com/two-stroke2.htm<<<<
On the down stroke it compresses the fuel vapor and pushes exhaust out on the up stroke....

[ashtweth]

Okay here is a little but more "newbee" type of stuff, on it,(at the bottom)
Hydroxy Gas

Thanks for tat Infoz Redmeanie, do you mind if i put it on a web page so you doint have to type all that again

Ash

[Redmeanie]

Sure....

Okay here is a little but more "newbee" type of stuff, on it,(at the bottom)
Hydroxy Gas

Thanks for tat Infoz Redmeanie, do you mind if i put it on a web page so you doint have to type all that again

Ash

Ash, Your more than welcomed to use whatever I post on your site..... Thats what I want, is to share all the things Ive learned so far on this quest! Trust me I have allot of "wheeew that was a close one!" type of experiences while playing in the HHO Realm....

[Redmeanie]

Sorry....

Red: What other things would I be concerned with other than timing at say 80% HHO to 20% petrol/air mixture.

I ask because I would like to run on mostly water with a little petroleum fuel to avoid rebuilding my engines and exhaust systems.

Also been toying with the idea of using a water soluble oil to coat things some where in the system, say at shut down for the same reasons.

Sorry I didnt see this post earlier!

Well if it is a Newer Vehicle all of the sensors are built to function together and calibrate each of the motors required response to actual running conditions. And by going with that Radical of a change in fuel will most likely make all these sensors not work correctly.

If its an old school carburetted engine it is definitely possible. That is why Stan Meyers chose a VW for his project.....

You could also just convert your factory ECU in the newer vehicle to a Stand Alone ECU and have it programmed to whatever you want and make all those sensors a non issue.

[kumaran]

Sorry.. the message has moved to my thread to keep track on progress.

[Tarkus]

Nice thought

Red: I wish it was that easy, and maybe it is. To my understanding the state of California gets real upset when you start tampering with factory equipment related to smog.
This leads me to believe that every other year I'd have to remove my system and reinstall the factory stuff, or maybe pay off the smog check guy

Do you know of any after market ECU's for newer vehicle's say 2006? where do I look.

Other than that I do have a pair of 1968 F-250s w/390cid hmmm.

[Redmeanie]

Red: I wish it was that easy, and maybe it is. To my understanding the state of California gets real upset when you start tampering with factory equipment related to smog.
This leads me to believe that every other year I'd have to remove my system and reinstall the factory stuff, or maybe pay off the smog check guy

Do you know of any after market ECU's for newer vehicle's say 2006? where do I look.

Other than that I do have a pair of 1968 F-250s w/390cid hmmm.

Tarkus,
I have inspections here in houston too, the idea is to have a unit that isnt obvious. I had the guy here run the machine 5 times and he couldn't fifure out why my exhaust was so clean. When I showed him he wanted one too and built his own smacks booster.
Another good thing about the EFIE I posted is there is a DPDT Switch that lets you go back to all factory setting with the flip of a switch. And with everything off the whole Booster is just passive.

As far a Standalone ECU I have used LINK Systems for about 8 yrs now but now there are cheaper more user friendly units out there. There is one on eBay that people are using that is called a "Little Squirt" or something like that and its about $100.

Let me know if I can help you!

[BuddyLee]

Fuel Mileage Efficiancy for larger vehicles

I am new to this and have spent a couple of weeks reading various articles, posts, veiwing the you tube videos. I am putting things together to mount a booster in a dodge Mini Van 3.3 litre V-6. I would like to also place one in my 4.8 Litre Chevy pickup 1500.

I have seen some mileage results from low speed tests but I drive faster than 40 miles per hour.

Obviously the vehicles I want to modify are fuel injected. I have looked at Red Meanies devices that he has selflessly put together for the members of this forum (Thank You(expect an order please))

I am a back yard Mechanic, DIY Electrician/Plumber/Carpenter etc. I feel mostly comfortable with building and installing my booster(s) once assembled perhaps with a little help from the members of this forum.

I have a question? What mileage can I expect with the booster say 1.5 lpm on my Silverado? Currently pulling a trailer I get about 13 to 16, speed usually about 70-75 mph?

I realize to become more efficient I may need to slow down about 10 mph though.

Will I need to run on straight Gas at times to keep the engine happy?

Thank You.

[Redmeanie]

I am new to this and have spent a couple of weeks reading various articles, posts, veiwing the you tube videos. I am putting things together to mount a booster in a dodge Mini Van 3.3 litre V-6. I would like to also place one in my 4.8 Litre Chevy pickup 1500.

I have seen some mileage results from low speed tests but I drive faster than 40 miles per hour.

Obviously the vehicles I want to modify are fuel injected. I have looked at Red Meanies devices that he has selflessly put together for the members of this forum (Thank You(expect an order please))

I am a back yard Mechanic, DIY Electrician/Plumber/Carpenter etc. I feel mostly comfortable with building and installing my booster(s) once assembled perhaps with a little help from the members of this forum.

I have a question? What mileage can I expect with the booster say 1.5 lpm on my Silverado? Currently pulling a trailer I get about 13 to 16, speed usually about 70-75 mph?

I realize to become more efficient I may need to slow down about 10 mph though.

Will I need to run on straight Gas at times to keep the engine happy?

Thank You.

Buddy,
On that 1500 you will probably want to build 2 Boosters. That is a Big Block correct? I would recommend running two. They can share a Bubbler and you have plenty of places to tuck them in the engine compartment.

The Mini Van should be fine with one.

Also setting up the Pick-up with the selectable Mixtures will be perfect for you since you pull trailers.

Your speed should not need to be adjusted as long as you have enough HHO and (this is the key) "Big Enough Hoses" taking the HHO into the Throttle body.

A reasonable and Very Satisfactory outcome (at least for me) is 25 to 35% increase in mileage without risking any damage to your Vehicle and keeping it within acceptable, as close to factory perimeter, as possible.

[BuddyLee]

Thank you Red,

You had mentioned about Archies Blue boosters, Is there a site or PDF document giving a little more than the theories, designs and other helpful things?

Thanks

[BuddyLee]

Found a doc about the Archies Blue.

[TuxAir]

Found a doc about the Archies Blue.

Please share the link (if you still have it) so others may benefit too
I know I would like to see more info on the Archie style boosters.

[Redmeanie]

Tux

Please share the link (if you still have it) so others may benefit too
I know I would like to see more info on the Archie style boosters.

Here you go....Its not much but you will get an idea!

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PatE9.pdf

[Fatman1]

OK as I'm new to this I got my head wrapped around the O2 sensor but still as a mechanic and DIY type I worry about engine timing with a fast burning HHO. I'm installing on a 97 1500 GMC with a 350. Looks like everyone seems to believe u need appox 1/4 liter per min for each liters of engine. I'm using a form of smack type with sodium hydroxide ( Roebic brand drain opener from Lowe's) I'm getting little over 1 LPM.

[TuxAir]

The output should gradually increase as the smacks unit gets conditioned.
I too have heard the 250mL of gas per liter of engine displacement. But only as a rough guideline for designing/choosing a booster. Based on the smacks specs... his 1.7 L/min output is enough then for your V8. His own green cells start out around 1.1 L/min and grow to 1.7 L/min after conditioning.