One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

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Coil wraped magnet.

I wonder if wraping a few copper coil layers over a diametric cylinder magnet and pulsing it inside the air core of an output coil might not generate the same power as a spinner? The magnet coil could be wired in place where Jonnydavro has his primary located on the Spinner S.E.C., where it would rest inside the output coil. Here's a you tube link where a guy gets OU current pulsing a stack of Neos. YouTube - Self Running Coil test 16

@Jonnydavro.
Thanks for your kind words. Your videos continue to excite me very very much.

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Single magnet spiner.

The magnets showed up, and it wasen't long before I had a thimble size coil with a Hall effect transister, salvaged from an orbital pulse toy, spinning the diametric like crazy. Got a satellite up. Got two velman pulse modulator kits in too. The magnetic vibration in a magnet held closly to the spinning magnet is very intense. The main magnet stayed perfectly centered for hours and hours. Very simple. Wired a wall transformer in backwards and measued output across a bridge rectifier, tried running it back to source, but still a draw.

[jonnydavro]

Hi Synchro.Man you work fast.Can you give us some more details of your motor,ie current draw and what type of satellite your spinning and pickup coil details.
Did you wire the transformer up to the satellite and what are you planning with the velman kits?
Sorry about all the questions but i still get excited about this motor and spinny stuff in general.
Happy experimenting.jonny.

[synchro]

@Jonnydavro.
The Velman kit is really cool, the board is pre etched, and all the labels and slots clearly marked. I plan an MEG. I saw an illustration of a horseshoe magnet with a tiny neo disc on one leg, and a keeper, wound with copper wire wraps accross to an air gap over the other leg. When you move the keeper side to side, a current is generated in the keeper winding. My idea is to get a wound toroid in the air gap, and pulse it with the Velman. I got three or four old projects up and running. A Bedini ssg fan, a large rotor with alternator attached, I got a spinner going off the power wrap of an 800 wrap bifilar with welding rod corps, and a 12 volt reed switch, but the power was too much.Take a look at this video 22k hz spinner YouTube - April Wind 2 Pulse Motor with Rodin Coil Here's another:
YouTube - Replication of Tom's device.

[synchro]

Selfrunner!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2hZgqlySc4 Skycollection demo's a selfrunner!

[redrichie]

YouTube - MAGLEV WINDOW MOTOR (EXPERIMENT) Skycollection demo's a selfrunner!

Where does he show selfrunning? The light never goes off when he disconnects from main battery (not that it has to however) . So im not sure what he was showing there. and the motor does not run any longer than it usually does when he turns off his circuit. There is very little friction in his setups and his very nice motors can rundown for minutes after he disconnects from primary. He usually shows between 10,000 to 15000 RPM's so with the extra flywheel that center rotor is producing it wouldnt surprise me if his rotor would spin for at least 5 minutes after switch off. And as he said it was just an experiment to see if it could. Not that it did or I think he might be really excited.

[rave154]

ita a beautiful build, but you could hear the motor continually slowing down once the battery was disconnected & it was reconnected to its own output...also bear in mind....with his almost frictionless setup....you could give that thing a quick whizz with your finger and it would probbaly spin for about 10 minutes before it stopped.

[synchro]

Skycollection.

I bet that's what he does in the video just prior to the selfrunner, where he shuts the T.V. off and charges the run battery. Just lets it free wheel.

[synchro]

Joule thief spinner.

Just back from the shop. The spindle from a spool of plumbers sealing tape, seats my 3/4 inch diametric cylinder, with a nylon sleeve and one 16th inch brass tube sniped down to pressure fit inside the plumbers spool core just right. Spins up inside there with great speed and stability. I haven't wound the output coil as yet, but another inovation, the discovery that the standard radio shack magnet wire spool, although too small to fit the magnet, is large enough to sandwich the plumbers spool with just the small amout of magnet sticking out. These three wire coils allow for Lidmoters Joule thief one transister, and more, towards resonance, reduced amp draw and fast rates of spin. I'm spinning it now with a thimble sized pulse coil and Hall effect transister at the base of two radio shack coils, then the Plumber spool output spinner in the middle and two shack coils on the top for a total of five. This way the unit could use the inside coils as trigger and pulse, leaving three for output, two on the outside, and the center spool around the spinning cylinder. Pretty simple, but a lot of work scaling down to this high degree of efficency and ease of construction. I'll take some close measurements after I'm done, but this is my final finished design.

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I ran the plumber spool magnet spinner over a red Radio Shack coil wire to a rectifier, and lit an LED got 7.58 volts and 1.75 amps D.C. coming out of that jasper. The power source is a 12 volt RS alarm battery at 12.25 volts, but I couldn't get the moter to run with the multi meter in series with the battery, so I don't know what the amp draw is for the motor. The spinner shows signs of work load when the load's applied, so I'm certain it begins to draw more current. I also turned the output coil into a power coil and spun the magnet with a reed switch, with the coil pressed up against the plumber spool. So all the spacing appears to work as well as predicted so far.

The gravy appears when the magnet rotor reaches very high R.P.M.'s with a cleanly tailored pulse width. The lengthend rest allows the magnet alloy time to restructure from the magnetic pulse. This is where the pay off takes place in terms of extra de-mag power, coupled with gravity loss, and cooling. The alloy uses heat to do the work of turning gravity into electricity. This is what I gathered from a perview of the works of Nicoli Zaev. So it has to race up but with the maximized Lenz drag from an output coil in closest proximity to optimize the output. I need to drill holes and pinch snip the ends, of the axel tube, also insert and glue two tiny nylon gromets at each end of the cylinder magnet, to replace the longer nylon sleeve.

[synchro]

There is a huge charging advantage to placing the output coil in between the spinning magnet and the pulse coil. The charge drops deeply when the output coil is positioned to the outside, with the spinner in between. I think this is a very important observation. Perhaps the pulse coil is imparting an induction current to the output coil, along with the magnet generated one? Perhaps the output coil, in such close adjanceny, is acting as an air core transformer secondary, and recovering all the pulse power, as well as generating higher voltage. I don't think we should dismiss the reports of overunity coming out of this simple configuration without closer scrutiny.

[magnetman12003]

There is a huge charging advantage to placing the output coil in between the spinning magnet and the pulse coil. The charge drops deeply when the output coil is positioned to the outside, with the spinner in between. I think this is a very important observation. Perhaps the pulse coil is imparting an induction current to the output coil, along with the magnet generated one? Perhaps the output coil, in such close adjanceny, is acting as an air core transformer secondary, and recovering all the pulse power, as well as generating higher voltage. I don't think we should dismiss the reports of overunity coming out of this simple configuration without closer scrutiny.

Like this?? I am having the most fun ever experimenting with this setup. Just bought two 450 volt 330 uf caps to use as my puffer capacitors in my rectifier circuit. Can hardly wait to try them out.

YouTube - WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Tom

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[IMG][/IMG]@magnetman12003, You're on the cutting edge with it. Thanks for your videos. It wouldn't be too hard for anyone to place an output coil between their pulse coils and the magnet rotors of their Bedeni motors to test this approach out for themselves. Has anyone ever seen a pulse motor generator so concieved? One can imagine what a radial rotor combination with a series of double stacked coils might look like! What effect does the induced high voltage charge have on the Lenz drag in the output coil, and what effect does the magnet have on the coil inductance in the approach phase?

Remember the Piggy Back coil? The pulse coil core extended out the back of the pulse coil, and a coil slipped over the end for output. There are lots of experimental videos. The question is, what would happen if you turned the coils around, so the output coil is sandwiched between the pulse coil and the rotor magnet, so we get a magnetman12003 configuration. The pulse coil can be tailored to fit inside the wide air core of a fine wire output coil too as another alternative. Gadgetmall demo'd a wobbly snake egg spinner with a secondary wrap around the top of a pulse coil he alleged was self running. I can't find his video right now.

I got 4.38 volts after placing the pulse coil against a piece of clear tape across the output coil core hole, and drilling holes in the plumbers spool for the magnet axle. It only stands a few inchs high, the fine wire thimble pulse coil with
Hall effect transister, right up against the red wire radio shack spool to a rectifier, and the plumber spool 3/4 inch spinner up top, but it's outputing nearly a whopping 8 watts, with hardly any input. I have to start taking precise measurements, but this is practicly identical to magnetman12003's setup, only scaled down to miniature proportions. I'll try and video this. It runs well sdeways too. It may run itself like Gadgetmalls snake egg which was basicly the same.

[magnetman12003]

How do you attach a thumbnail photo?

I have the circuit I modified but am unable to submit it here as you did.
Just how did you place your thumbnail photo here?
Tom

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Attachments.

@magnetman12003:
When the reply box opens up, you'll see a series of icons on the top of the box. Just to the right of the smily face you'll see the icon image of a paper clip. Click on that and, enter the information for upload to the computer.

YouTube - MAGLEV WINDOW MOTOR MODIFICATION & HALL EFFECT SYSTEM

Skycollection has posted a new video where he demonstrates over 6x OU with a Hall effect transister like the one I'm using, with only one lower coil of his window motor. One can see the practical identical similarity between between Skycollection's latest version and the miniature spool model I am making measurements from.