Say hello to BP's legacy

[Peter Lindemann]

More Fun Than a Barrel of Monkeys

Hi Folks,

You'll love this!

BBC News - BP accused of 'buying academic silence'

Peter

[wrench76]

Hello everyone, this is an older video (day 70) but it does show more evidence of the toxic levels of "doesntcorexit" in the water.
YouTube - TheUFOeffect's Channel

Brian

[ashtweth]

Great video channel in particular this one guys
thanks for posting my friend this helped us with video editing!

YouTube - The Video BP & Big Oil Don't Want You to See (By AlienScientist)

[aljhoa]

“DEEPWATER HORIZON” OIL RIG: THE WELL FROM HELL | Adrian Salbuchi

Al

[rickoff]

I saw in the news today that BP CEO Tony Hayward has been let go from his position. BP apparently thinks that their public opinion will show improvement if an American CEO (probably Managing Director Bob Dudley of Mississippi) takes over as CEO. And what becomes of the former CEO, Tony Hayward, you might ask? I don't think he will feel much pain from this job loss, as he was let go with a $18 million "golden parachute" compensation package in exchange for him voluntarily stepping down, and word has it that he has been offered a high post in BP's Russian operations, where of course he will be out of the spotlight, so to speak. Strange, isn't it, how mismanagement and ineptitude is customarily rewarded by corporation boards who dole out huge severance packages. Of course he only did everything the board of directors told him to do, so they offer this payola to keep his mouth shut because he knows too much. At the same time, they expect that the American public will swallow their housecleaning scam, and perhaps many people will. After all, the "bad apple" is out of the picture, the leak will be stopped soon, and BP will probably change their name to something less recognizable.

Rick

[rickoff]

Where did it go?

Yes, that's the question now being asked. See the video at this link:
BP Oil Spill: Where Did All The Crude Go? Mother Nature Breaks Down Slick in Gulf of Mexico - ABC News


Last month, the oil slick was the size of Kansas. Two weeks ago, oil skimmers sucked up more than 25,000 barrels, but last Thursday they only gathered 200 barrels. Overflights are not spotting any significant oil slicks, so where has all the oil gone? The answer lies with the monumental amount of toxic dispersants that were used. Instead of lying on the surface, as it naturally would, the oil has dispersed in the Gulf waters. It is still there, but now it is everywhere in the Gulf region where seawater is found, from the deepest depths to the surface. It is very doubtful that any living creature could survive immersed in this toxic soup. Notice how ABC news plays this up as mother nature effectively handling the problem, with little left to be done by BP, the government, or cleanup crews. What a sham!

[ashtweth]

Thanks Rick good points there we can make use of.
Oil Subjugation
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I think the reasons that the dispersant was speed was so they can cover it up and its cheaper and results in their profits?

If so Congress wont care
Halliburton Continues to Flood Lawmakers With Contributions After Oil Spill - OpenSecrets Blog | OpenSecrets

[rickoff]

Thanks Rick good points there we can make use of.
Oil Subjugation
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I think the reasons that the dispersant was speed was so they can cover it up and its cheaper and results in their profits?

If so Congress wont care
Halliburton Continues to Flood Lawmakers With Contributions After Oil Spill - OpenSecrets Blog | OpenSecrets

You're welcome, Ash. Say, I don't know if someone else may already have pointed this out, but your second link reminded me that Halliburton was the outfit that did the cementing job on BP's failed well. Halliburton had suggested a need for 21 centralizing buttresses in the cementing job, but BP wanted to cut expenses so said that they only wanted 5. Halliburton complied with BP's request, the cement job was inadequate, and that's why it gave out. Halliburton knew the job would be inadequate, and would likely result in failure, so accepting the job on those terms definitely shows criminal negligence on their part. Anything for a buck. Makes me wonder who is doing the new cementing job on this well and the relief well's 2000 foot casing.

Rick

[ashtweth]

Rick they didn't and i didn't know that thanks man

Ash

[Cloxxki]

I know (direct intel) of 1000 metric tonnes of surfactants having been used by BP, but have not found any info about the product in question indirectly. It's basically industrial strength soap.
Personally, I do believe in mother nature's strength at cleaning up our mess. We are living in the proof. If you spread something as nasty as oil thin enough, it will be broken down by nature. This doesn't mean it doesn't kill nature in the process. It just doesn't kill all of it.
Disclaimer : I wasn't particularly good at biology in highschool.

[jibbguy]

"Soap" is not a petroleum product. Corexit is. Soap does not kill every living thing in a large area where it is dispersed; and it does not mix with crude oil to form even more toxic volatile compounds (this is the worst danger of it that appears to be totally ignored by everyone including the EPA who have no tests for these exotic volatiles). Soap does not give people headaches and sore throats just from getting whiffs of it. And it does not break down cellular linings causing massive hemorrhaging either.

That stuff will be the death of many thousands of the workers, and many more inland. Just like it killed nearly everyone who worked on the Exxon Valdez, whose average life span was "51 years".

[Aaron]

soap

"Soap" is not a petroleum product. Corexit is. Soap does not kill every living thing in a large area where it is dispersed; and it does not mix with crude oil to form even more toxic volatile compounds (this is the worst danger of it that appears to be totally ignored by everyone including the EPA who have no tests for these exotic volatiles). Soap does not give people headaches and sore throats just from getting whiffs of it. And it does not break down cellular linings causing massive hemorrhaging either.

That stuff will be the death of many thousands of the workers, and many more inland. Just like it killed nearly everyone who worked on the Exxon Valdez, whose average life span was "51 years".

That's true. As a matter of fact, if it was soap, the oil would be emulsified and
would float on the water long enough until it was all scooped up...if it was
an effective enough soap.

I worked with a nanocolloidal soap made of plant fats, etc... and it had the
strongest wetting ability of any soap available. It can microencapsulate
the oil molecules and hold them in suspension to prevent the oil from sinking
at all.

With oil on a beach for example, it can be sprayed on top and super
accelerate the breakdown that would normally take many years.

We did a demo at my friend's house with fresh motor oil on a ceramic tile.
We sprayed the oil and swirled it around the oil for about 45 seconds. It
literally broke the oil down so much so fast that the oil was almost the
same consistency as water.

Anyway, there are a lot of remedies like this but of course all safe solutions
are blocked by insanity.

Pretty insane to call their toxic dispersant Corexit (Corrects It).

[Cloxxki]

@Aaron:
Any experience with sodium dioctyl sulfosuccinate?

[Aaron]

corexit ingredient

Cloxxi,

No, but it looks like it is used in everything from laxatives to corexit.

Corexit encapsulates the oil but not in as small as pieces as the soap
I mention and the oil "corrected" by corexit sinks when it should be
treated with something that prevents it sinking.

[Cloxxki]

I'm no chemist, but that's what was used wither directly or indirectly. A quite similar product is often used for smaller oil spills, say on platforms or at refineries, and actually also in machinework cleaners (dirty greasy drove chains, etc)
An advantage of oil sinking, or to some degree floating in the ocean, in my modest view would be volume vs. surface. How deep is the Gulf? Let's say it's just a few hundred meters. Then still, a hundred meters of water, fow, let's say, on average over the huge Gulf 1mm (exageration) of oil...that's a lot of biochemistry being put to work. The surface is well, superficial.
Also, floating oil seems like it would sufficate the top layers of the body of water?