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  • #61
    scalar waves

    This may help to understand what is happening
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    • #62
      Very important Aspden file

      For me this is probably one of the most enlightening files I have read . Having spoken at length to Harold himself about this whole area and read all his books, I am convinced he has pulled all the theory together and set out what needs to be done in the field of Electro magnetic recovery and Aether displacement
      Take your time and read this and connect it back to all your own understandings
      of what is common among most peoples work
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      • #63
        Originally posted by braden View Post
        This may help to understand what is happening
        Hi
        Actually Me and a couple of schoolboys have built the unit, and I will be posting some pictures and results in this forum. The phenomenon is amazing. Current surges in one wire only fashion and it is almost impossible to measure the current in the receiver, the amp meter goes mad. The oscilloscope doesn't show meaningful results.
        The current measured by the oscilloscope was about 20mA @ 7 Vrms across the lamp, but the lamp was REALLY bright, and you'd need a minimum of 12V @ 0.5 A to have such a brightness.

        The problem we have is the fact that when we ground the receiver and the transmitter the energy gets lost? The resonant frequency of our system is about 290KHz and maybe that is the reason and we may need to move up to the MHz range.

        Elias
        Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
        http://blog.hexaheart.org

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        • #64
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          • #65
            Hi guys,

            Thanks for all the great input into this thread. I feel we have made some progress here in finding some missing information regarding "THE RADIANT EVENT". By looking deeper into what thomson/houston and edison were working on it looks like they were producing radiant energy.

            I find it interesting that Tesla never says much about how he configures his secondaries. He sometimes mentions that it is split in two. But doesnt say much else. So i am betting money that his split secondarys are equal and opposite coils to produce the standing/stationary waves that are also called scalar waves (longitudal waves). I am now feeling enlightened with this knowledge. Hopefully it bears fruit for everyone who reads this thread.

            Unfortunately i have been too busy with work to start a replication of any sorts..but hope to start soon.

            Nat

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            • #66
              The secret is and always was MAGNETIC CURRENT !
              And circuits peculiar in "electric sense" but quite normal if you count magnetic current EMANATING FROM CORES OF COILS !
              Parts of those circuits were just a guides for magnetic current.

              Now look here : Edward Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder

              this is Edison etheric force flowing INDEFINITELY in closed loop. No resistance !

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              • #67
                radio waves

                Or, maybe it is nothing more than "radio wave induction" as discovered
                by Hertz's replication of Edison's circuit.
                Sincerely,
                Aaron Murakami

                Books, Videos, ESTC Conference Info, Blog, etc. https://emediapress.com

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                • #68
                  I am not qualified to say whether it is radio waves or not...but i cant see how it could be if sparks were being generated in the entire building as generated by thomson/houston

                  Also found this interesting article on scalar waves where Tesla did describe his secondary split in to symmetrically. I will look into this zinc box further.

                  http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/trnslrt.txt

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                  • #69
                    Is the "TEP" representative of Tesla's coils

                    The region between the coils where the north/south poles oppose is known as
                    the ZPE (zero-point energy) zone. Although scalar substructures are created
                    in the zpe, this type of translator is not exceptionally efficient due to the
                    flux leakage at the other end of the coils. (The accompanying diagram will
                    clarify this.)

                    This was one of the two types of translators discovered and examined by
                    Nikola Tesla. If you refer to his 1904 lecture in London, you will notice
                    that the demonstration coil Tesla used which was encased in a zinc box
                    (Faraday Cage), had a secondary coil that consisted of two halves wound
                    oppositely.

                    The coils as described in that book would have created a zpe zone between
                    them. The field would have been capable of penetrating the zinc box,
                    (whereas normal em waves would not) and this is most likely how Tesla
                    stumbled onto it. There is at least one other translator Mr. Tesla
                    stumbled onto which we shall discuss next.

                    JLN Labs - Scalar Waves Research

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                    • #70
                      Here's Tesla zinc box....from 1892 lecture "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH
                      POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY* "
                      with split primary and secondaries wound oppositely with full details on turns etc.

                      http://www.tesla.hu/tesla/articles/18920200/fig03.gif

                      http://www.tesla.hu/tesla/articles/18920200/fig05.gif

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                      • #71
                        There's nothing better than some animated pictures to show how a standing wave looks like. From this one can conclude how Tesla's/houston/Thomson and the other experimenters devices mentioned in this thread actually works.

                        Enjoy!

                        Matter is made out of waves!

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                        • #72
                          Also helps to compare it to the first animation on this thread too

                          Strings, standing waves and harmonics

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                          • #73
                            Healing Videos

                            Part 3 of 3:

                            "Scalar-Energy and Scalar-Waves in Healing

                            Great video on scalar energy found in the environment....gets really good about 20 minutes into the video!!

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                            • #74
                              Hi everyone! First posting here after reading for a few years....

                              Firstly, I'd like to point out how the reverse direction coiling is used in a VERY CLEAR manner in Ralph Bergstresser's Spark enhancer. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...939-814-a.html

                              Second, I'd like to point out that When an open pipe osscilates at the first overtone, 2 nodes are created, each a quarter length from the ends, creating 3 sections.

                              The Project Gutenberg eBook of How It Works, by Archibald Williams. about halfway down the page, marked page 293

                              To relate that to the ignition coil, The two windings at the ends are equal length and wound in the same direction, and the middle one is twice the length in the opposite direction. So, we now have 2 frequencies made, one twice that of the other, and each are a quarter and a half of the entire length.

                              Basically the inventor of the coil says that the original single discharge is turned into many more discharges, without really diminishing the output of each one. It seems it's a frequency multiplier coil with the effect of a primary and a secondary, but it's just one single coil. Through the resonance it creates naturally, maybe it actually is a passive voltage multiplier too.

                              Also, in the spark coil, I can relate it to the way Victor Schauberger made systems, by alternating between a direction of flow that allows expansion and one which causes compression. Such is the case with his trout turbine and other fluid systems. He used just a slightly higher ratio of traveling in the desired direction to the opposite direction, for an action-reaction drive that is slightly unbalanced to cause motion in only 1 direction, yet allow oscillations back and forth within it. At the beginning of the spark coil there is a loose winding leading up to the first tight one, both in the same direction which biases the entire field of the coils in that direction.

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                              • #75
                                Thanks all for contributing to this thread on equal and opposite coils-


                                Here's a post that i made today FROM GRAY TUBE THREAD
                                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post89311


                                Here's an exerpt from my thread (post 39)where i do some digging into Telsas research1872, Elihu Thomson - anyone got this document in scientific american 1872??


                                "OMG i just noticed in edwin grays patent inductors 23 & 28 also (in the attachment of post 31 of this thread)...I know how this works now!!!!"

                                Did you notice the symmetry too....Inductors 23 & 28 would create a standing wave just as Tesla specified - the coils are wound equally and oppositely. Mark Mckay has been right all along the floating flux coils hold the key - they generate standing wave/stationary waves. What is missing in the patent is the complete symmetry of the circuit as specified by Houston/Tesla. Compare them to Tesla's zinc box which is described in detail towards the very end of the thread....10 turns on secondary.....how many turns in the floating flux coil....10 turns....conicidence...don't think so!!!

                                And what exactly is the floating flux coils made from. Looks like coaxil cable to me. Who patented coaxil cable - Tesla did!!
                                Last edited by nat1971a; 03-21-2010, 07:36 PM.

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