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  • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
    Relatively speaking - cause that's still 3 weeks rent for me. I like how tenaciously you follow your ideas Aromaz; I'll be keeping watch of your progress :-)
    the purpose is not 'how cheap it is for me' but how much in effort, time
    and money such gas collection would have costed Tesla in his time.
    I think that would probably be enough to pay your rent for a few years - then!
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
      This morning I picked up the phone and ordered a cylinder of Liqued Nitrogen,
      one of Helium, one of Hydrogen, two of Oxygen and one of Fluorine - in Thailand.
      Wow, are you attempting to replicate Tesla superconductor too ?

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      • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
        Wow, are you attempting to replicate Tesla superconductor too ?
        Replicate is a waste of time; unless needed to study an effect.
        In this case, many people did already, and their notes are public,
        thus I read. verify and move on with my own.
        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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        • Tesla wa sure that electrostatic field is very high frequency oscillation and he stated that he had produced even higher frequencies.
          Finally we will return back to our well known electrostatic charges created by rubbing plastic. I'm serious, we only don't know how to tap that usable power.

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          • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
            Replicate is a waste of time; unless needed to study an effect.
            In this case, many people did already, and their notes are public,
            thus I read. verify and move on with my own.
            Agree, we should read more or else we just replicating what other already confirm.

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            • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
              I am afraid our findings are the same.
              BUT - it must be possible.
              As with all the rest of this dream, we will have to get thingking out of the box.

              It is like waking up in the middle of a sand desert at 12PM and not know which way to go for water.

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              • I am probably crazy - hope so. But....

                Originally posted by Rectified View Post
                Danger High Stress Area Ahead!!!! ..... Very few will study and learn first before building ............
                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                • Outside the box

                  Devils advocate time - in a playful way...

                  Thinking outside the box is well and good, but thinking outside the box while neglecting to LOOK outside the box may be considered folly..

                  I found this link while researching to see if other people have done experiments regarding electrostatic fields and wether it is a property of a vacuum.

                  Ps, @ bodkins, @ Aromaz - too many assumptions, apparently you are wrong. At least bearden thinks so. It's on this link, along with enough info to nudge this thread into a broader study than just frequency.

                  The Tom Bearden Website

                  Much love,
                  Ben
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                    Devils advocate time - in a playful way...
                    I appreciate and as always am happy. I am looking AND thinking; both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the box. Can prove it with my know and understand of conventional electrics - and have read much of Tom Bearden.

                    With all due respect - and I do have plenty for TB; but one question:
                    What did Tom Bearden ever do to prove any of his theories? As TB says "......seems to be the missing principle that is involved in all of them."

                    There is one thing that all are missing; The universe is electrical. It is just so simple and I think that is why people fail to realize it, they are looking for the more complicated.

                    It only needs you to look with your unconditioned mind and open eyes. Point for point, photo after photo - there are so many appearances and pehnomenon in the universe "not understood' or have extreme complicated theories. Yet, give the same picture to an electrician or metal worker and he might tell you that he has already seen it - in the process of working/melting/cutting/welding of steel - or electrical shorts!

                    The universe is working on, in, around and with electricity! Full stop and this I will - and can - argue now with anybody with any other theory.

                    Electricity=Magnetic
                    Magnetism=Electricity
                    Electricity and Magnetism is ElectroMagnetism
                    ElectroMagnetism=light and sound
                    ElectroMagnetism=movement
                    EM=Electrons
                    Electrons=Universe

                    Be it called by whatever word, electrons, ions, aether, muons, gluons, dancers, whatever - it all comes back to Electrons;
                    which by the way science does not yet uinderstand! Is it a wave or is it a particle or is it a particle-wave?

                    Last edited by Aromaz; 02-18-2009, 10:50 AM.
                    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                    • you say potato, I say potato

                      A rose by any other name would smell as sweet --&-{@

                      Aether vortex = electron + movement in time = magnetic field

                      // I'm on the same page, just using different words :-)

                      Ps, humor me, read this page. Electrostatic force between two conductors ( capacitance ) is more efficient at transmission of joules per volt, in a vacuum!

                      Capacitors

                      so, 'besides the air, another medium is present' - tesla

                      And that medium is stressed by voltage (or vice versa?) Which in turn can create or remove charge in a conductor, although no charge exists in transit.

                      Sound familiar?
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • Oh, love of my mind, woman of my dreams!

                        P.S.
                        Only by means of oscillations can we have some control over electrons (or aether) and their effects. Check your reference to Tom Bearden above again:

                        "Inventor and researcher Scott McKie has filed a patent application on an energy system using just such an energy reverberation and iterative energy interception and collection. In addition, it uses the novel fact that by potential alone one can alter (rotate) the inertial frame of a component."

                        "Again we caution the reader that all this is theory until independent certified tests verify it."

                        I have my experiments and findings from the past two months, which are not published - yet, and maybe never will be. But I will tell you this in fact: There is much more to be understood from Electrons that most people - including highly regarded scientists - know. How did I come to this and how did I do these experiments? From observations in old, very old, antique and pre-historic writings!

                        My only advice:
                        "And go yee forth, play with electrons until you stand in awe"

                        ELECTRONS - not electricity or electronics - ELECTRONS !

                        A good point for starting: Look at the periodic table, see which minerals will easily loose their electrons, which is holding them more tightly. Which minerals has magnetic flux properties?

                        Look at the energy required, the ones that looses electrons easiest are all under Hydrogen with Sodium, Cesmium and Potasium the most easilly available.

                        Barium is another easy to get mineral.
                        Ever wondered why Bedini always insisted on people using Barium Ferrite magnets? Why did both Floyd Sweet and E.V.Gray use Barium magnets. What was the minerals in Tesla's magnets?

                        Barium only needs 5.21 eV to loose an ion! Cesmium is the second option; Cesmium only needs 3.89 eV - in fact; the least of all minerals (I think).
                        In comparison, Copper needs 7.72 eV.

                        Here is a good link:
                        Periodic Table of the Elements

                        Ahh, I am falling in love with what modern day science is calling Electrons
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                          ......Sound familiar?
                          YES! Sounds like - Electrons!
                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • Interesting video

                            YouTube - UFO exiting a wormhole??
                            I also saw two others of the same occurance, one with german speaking man. Both from different view points.

                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                              Here is with better camera angle, from top:
                              YouTube - High voltage can move water #2 vertical shot
                              ether fish? or just worm adapting it self?

                              About time reversal effect, isn't things happen because we plan it to happen?
                              @sucahyo and all,
                              I don't wish to rain on the party here.
                              What has been observed is important, but this observation is incomplete
                              and requires additional evaluation to conclude water is being "moved".

                              A dye (or something) must be used to rule out that the effect observed,
                              vortex movement of "stuff" floating upon the water, was not just pushing the "stuff" around.
                              Meaning it was not moving the water, which moved the "stuff".
                              Static electricity, for example, can "move" things ..
                              Is the effect observed moving the "Stuff" upon the water or the water?

                              Every little piece of the puzzle, information / observation, is important.

                              Another question would be: "Was the vortex movement observed due to the shape
                              of the cup or influenced only by the HV alone?
                              One can blow air upon the water in a cup and observe a vortex movement due to the cup is round.
                              A larger container where the movement observed is not pushing against
                              the side of the container would answer the vortexing question?

                              Just
                              Randy
                              Last edited by Vortex; 02-18-2009, 12:43 PM. Reason: flip-flopped some words
                              Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                              Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                              • Egyptian Hub

                                In reference to my posting #501 on page #17 here:

                                Egyptian Artifact; Tomb of Prince Sabu 3,000 BC.
                                For some references see the following websites:
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                                The Mysterious Egyptian Tri-Lobed Disc ....Page 52"cachibache" (a small hole that threatens to become a much larger hole)".(See Thunderbolts of the Gods)
                                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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