That was unexpected.... (Magnacoaster)

[Ted Ewert]

Thanks for the tips Joit. I built a few Bedini SGs and I remember having to wind the coils a certain way. With these particular coils, the polarity is going to be flipping back and forth so orientation isn't quite as critical. Nevertheless, one direction will be harder to switch than the other, so orientation may help there.
I also have a Pulse Width Modulator that I'm going to use to explore the effects of different frequencies and duty cycles. I hooked up an IGBT on the output to drive the coil and it works pretty good.
The trick will be to find an optimal frequency and pulse duration. The higher the frequency, the higher the output power will be. Switching the flux thoroughly and efficiently is going to take some study. Domains don't switch quickly unless persuaded in no uncertain terms.

Ted

[Joit]

Wow, You have a lot Toys to play around.
At last, i forgot one Coil.
Bifilar, but not done as most time here, and connected it parallel, but in Series, where the End of one Coils is connected to the Start of the 2nd Coil.
And even to figure out, wich both Ends works better.
Somewhere was a Thread about Teslas Bifilar Coils, but i dont find it anymore.
He says there, a normal Coil has 0,1Volt increase, but
made Bifilar, and connected them in Series, means,
gives 50V increase, plus, it has way more better reaction time.
And it was not this Pancake design, more like a Aircoil

I made once a small one, and it did really give better Results that Way at generating some Power, and that means, the Coils reacts better for AC.
but i am scared about messing around all time with 2 Wires.

[dankie]

Thanks , Dankie, but you have no more of an idea about what my best solution is than I would have about what yours or anyone else's is. I can certainly appreciate the research which you have done concerning the Meyer method for HHO production, and I applaud you for your efforts. I don't think you will see a rush to buy your wire, though, at least until you show some very successful results. I believe you said that you had already invested $3,000 just on the wire, and I would guess that by the time you finish your project you will have invested considerably more than that - perhaps $4200 or more? And how many LPM, and MMW do you realistically expect you can produce at a 12 volt, 1 ampere input level? The smallest magnacoaster model uses 1 ampere at 12 volts, and is said to produce 4.8 kw output 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, for a $4200 investment. With 4.8kw, you can fully power your home, or you can use the output to power an electric car, or to generate massive amounts of HHO with brute force or Meyer methods to fuel a powerful ICE. I don't think that $4200 is beyond the reach of the average Joe, as the investment would pay for itself in just 3 years if your electric bills are running around $116 a month, which is probably a reasonable average for household use.

Bottom line is that it all depends on anyone's individual situation - their knowledge, skills, abilities, and resources (both financial and natural), as well as their current status towards gaining energy independence. That's why you cannot answer the question for anyone other than yourself. If you choose the Meyer method then that's choice #3, and that's fine by me. I have no problem with that - it's your choice, and I only asked what you would choose - not what you would choose for me. Okay?

Best wishes to you with your Meyer project,

Rick

Rick

Why dont you just buy a generator and see for yourself what happens with this company , 4200$ is nothing for this .

[chemelec]

Actually, it's 40,000% OU

12w in, and 4800w out = 400 times increase in power

12w = 100%, 4800w = 400 times 100% = 40,000%

And this is just the smallest device that he offers!

The magnets are said to be enclosed in a 2"x2"x2" cube, and the electronics don't require much space, so the unit could actually be built into a small box. It is the coils, which require a pump, liquid coolant, and a coolant tank to keep them from overheating, which takes up most of the used space in the enclosure, and these could probably be placed in a separate enclosure. Perhaps Willis has rediscovered Tesla's little box that powered his electric car. Willis claims that with 18 watts input, he has been able to get more than 50kw out. That's enough to power an electric vehicle having a 67 hp motor, such as my 2007 Prius.

Wow! Let's hope this is the real thing. It would be nice to see some further validation for the inventor's claims - such as independent test data showing input and output - rather than just a few light bulbs turned on as in his videos. I don't mean to put Richard Willis down - I just think he should offer some further verification. I really do think that what he claims is in fact possible, and that a few others (including Tesla) have been able to do the same thing to one extent or another.

Regards,

Rick

If This Device Actually Works (I Seriously Doubt It) and you also consider that Once this device is Started using the battery, Than a Return loop from the output could go back to the input to supply input power.
Than the Battery could be Totally Disconnected forever.

Thus you would now have a Perpetual Motion Device, with No External Power input.

Definately Too good to be true.

The Invester from Dragons Den has no loss of his investment, (If it Actually was to be given) because it was a Conditional Offer, Based on PROOF that this device actually worked.

Also Consider, If this device "Is or Becomes a Patented product", The patent Expires in 17 Years.

** Than Anyone or Everyone can build it for free world power.

[rickoff]

If This Device Actually Works (I Seriously Doubt It) and you also consider that Once this device is Started using the battery, Than a Return loop from the output could go back to the input to supply input power.
Than the Battery could be Totally Disconnected forever.

Thus you would now have a Perpetual Motion Device, with No External Power input.

Definately Too good to be true.

The Invester from Dragons Den has no loss of his investment, (If it Actually was to be given) because it was a Conditional Offer, Based on PROOF that this device actually worked.

Also Consider, If this device "Is or Becomes a Patented product", The patent Expires in 17 Years.

** Than Anyone or Everyone can build it for free world power.

Actually, everyone could build it right now if we had the design in hand, since we can legally replicate any patent for our own personal validation and experimentation. A patent only prevents us from selling replications of the device. I searched both the US and Canadian patent offices for any patent applications, and could not find anything related to this device by searching with the inventor's name, the word "Magnacoaster," or the word "Vorktex" (which was displayed on the Products page of his website). The fact that there is no listed patent or patent application does not nullify the possibility that the invention exists, of course.

The probability that this device can perform as claimed should be viewed with some healthy skepticism until such time as reliable, independent testing can verify the claims. At the same time, though, it won't hurt to keep our minds open to the possibility that this - or a similar device - will someday prove to be genuine.

I know we have some Canadian members participating here. Anyone willing to visit the inventor in Ontario, Canada, and test the input and output? This could only serve to help Richard Willis if his claims are factual, so I don't see why he would object to a videotaped verification test. So far, all we have seen in the videos is several 100 watt light bulbs lit up (I think 11, for 1100 watts total in one of his most recent YouTube demos), and this really doesn't tell us much. We could do the same thing with a bit of battery power. If anyone is interested in doing a verification test, you can contact Richard Willis at the following e-mail address: rdw@magnacoaster.com

The Canadian production site is said to be in Cambridge, Ontario. You can visit the Magnacoaster website at: Magnetic power, green power, over unity, power for home, no wires, Richard Willis, Magnacoaster Motor Company Inc.

Best regards,

Rick

[chemelec]

Vorktex Home Unit 12 KW $ 15,000.00 USD

looking for the latest in home power units this is the first from Magnacoaster. The 12 KW offgrid unit will allow you to have power 24 hours a day without the hydro company and all the charges thet tend to add on your bill every month. this unit needs to be hooked into the fuse box and we recomend a electrician to do this as power can kill. Comes with 14 KW Vorktex head and the new Aims 12 KW inverter.

I Find this Interesting, No Pictures of any of these Units.
Guarantee is also Squat.

Also this is to be OFF GRID?
Most homes today are 220-230 VAC at 100 Amp service.
That is about 22KW

This Unit is a TAD LOW for OFF GRID POWER.
Where is the 1 amp in for 57KW out?

Also there is No Claim on actual Input Power or any real Data on Output Frequency, Stability or Anything Else.
Zilch on ANY Technical Data.

Definately a "BUYER BEWARE" Product.

Rickoff Said: Actually, everyone could build it right now if we had the design in hand, since we can legally replicate any patent for our own personal validation and experimentation. A patent only prevents us from selling replications of the device.

Yes I know that anyone could build it for personal use.

And reguardless of your seach, there could still be a patent.
It may only cover "One crutial piece" of the invention and could be filed under a partners, Wife or a Relatives name.

If its Really as Good as He Claims, He should have something to protect it from others doing commerical productions.

Also Strange, In all the Photos I see, None of the wiring is Capable of Huge amounts of output currents.
(But Maybe he is just Hiding that wiring?)

[itzon]

I want this to be real but,

Why would he even need investors?

Sell them to his friends and family at cost. Once they have one, their friends and families will want one. Sales would spread like wildfire and it would have too much momentum to suppress the product.

Where's the video/pictures of this powering his shop or home? If anyone of us had this, wouldn't that be the first thing that you would do?

I smell something and that stench can't be good for free energy advocates.

Itzon

[esaruoho]

well, if i had 4200$ + postage to finland i'd buy this and attempt to power a set of pc multimedia speakers with it, and possibly, if i could also afford a surge protection device i would connect a laptop to it. then i'd know.

[rickoff]

Yes I know that anyone could build it for personal use. And reguardless of your seach, there could still be a patent. It may only cover "One crutial piece" of the invention and could be filed under a partners, Wife or a Relatives name.

If its Really as Good as He Claims, He should have something to protect it from others doing commerical productions.

Also Strange, In all the Photos I see, None of the wiring is Capable of Huge amounts of output currents.
(But Maybe he is just Hiding that wiring?)

Yes, I only stated the terms that I searched under, and I know that may not be adequate to determine whether or not a patent actually exists, but I have no idea what else I could use for a search. Perhaps someone else may find it, and that would be nice.

There could be some reasons why a patent or patent application may not be found, and these could include, but not be limited to the following:
1. This could simply be a tweak on someone else's patent design. After all, there probably aren't many things with magnets that haven't been tried already.
2. Perhaps the patent application has just recently been submitted, and hasn't been reviewed yet. If you click his "Helpers" link at the website, the first name in the list is posted as, "Brad Little - Patent writer." So maybe they are working on a patent for his latest design. You would expect that they would probably at least file a patent application before going into production.
3. If what Willis claims is true (and he does claim that what he is doing "has never been done before"), then this would indeed be quite a remarkable achievement. Knowing that, he could fear that the military might step in and claim the patent rights as a matter of "national security." It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. Therefore, he may hope to simply sell as many of these units as possible and as soon as possible. Keep in mind that he could sell just 1,000 of the 12kw units, rake in $150,000,000 from that alone, and then retire in some tropical paradise. So why should he file the patent, and wait 3 to 5 years for the patent process? Isn't $150 million more than enough?
4. Maybe he wants to get the goods out to the public as quickly as possible, because he knows that once it goes public then he is less at risk of personal injury or worse at the hands of the suppressionists.

Who knows? We sure don't.

Rick

[chemelec]

Yes, I only stated the terms that I searched under, and I know that may not be adequate to determine whether or not a patent actually exists, but I have no idea what else I could use for a search. Perhaps someone else may find it, and that would be nice.

There could be some reasons why a patent or patent application may not be found, and these could include, but not be limited to the following:
1. This could simply be a tweak on someone else's patent design. After all, there probably aren't many things with magnets that haven't been tried already.
2. Perhaps the patent application has just recently been submitted, and hasn't been reviewed yet. If you click his "Helpers" link at the website, the first name in the list is posted as, "Brad Little - Patent writer." So maybe they are working on a patent for his latest design. You would expect that they would probably at least file a patent application before going into production.
3. If what Willis claims is true (and he does claim that what he is doing "has never been done before"), then this would indeed be quite a remarkable achievement. Knowing that, he could fear that the military might step in and claim the patent rights as a matter of "national security." It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. Therefore, he may hope to simply sell as many of these units as possible and as soon as possible. Keep in mind that he could sell just 1,000 of the 12kw units, rake in $150,000,000 from that alone, and then retire in some tropical paradise. So why should he file the patent, and wait 3 to 5 years for the patent process? Isn't $150 million more than enough?
4. Maybe he wants to get the goods out to the public as quickly as possible, because he knows that once it goes public then he is less at risk of personal injury or worse at the hands of the suppressionists.

Who knows? We sure don't.

Rick

Just one comment:

It would be Extremely Unusual for the Canadian Military or Government to get involved in Stopping this.
More Likely if it has a Possibility of working, they would Help in Funding Research for it.
Canada is Much Different from the USA in this stuff.

[rickoff]

Just one comment:

It would be Extremely Unusual for the Canadian Military or Government to get involved in Stopping this.
More Likely if it has a Possibility of working, they would Help in Funding Research for it.
Canada is Much Different from the USA in this stuff.

I'll take your word on that, since you live in Canada and would know more about that aspect, but have grown over the years to distrust all governments and government operated or sponsored agencies.

I notice that in the "Helpers" section of his website, Willis lists the "University of Waterloo." In one of Willis' YouTube demos he mentions, "here in Kitchener," so I assume that he lives in Kitchener. The University of Waterloo would only be about 2 miles from his home, so it is likely that there has perhaps been some interaction between the University staff and Willis regarding his invention. U of W has a strong engineering department, and directly participates in the community based Waterloo Research Park, which U of W states, "provides a powerfully supportive base for radical, high impact research."
UW Research and Technology Park

Perhaps U of W staff would be willing to comment on the validity of Willis' Magnacoaster device, and his overunity claims. Regarding that, I have just sent an e-mail inquiry to Carol Stewart at the University of Waterloo Research and Technology Park, the contents of which are as follows:
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Hello Carol,

I am not at all certain as to who I should actually be contacting at U of W regarding the information I am searching for, but if you cannot provide an answer then perhaps you can steer my inquiry to someone at the University who can. Basically, I am looking for any information that would explain the connection between Waterloo University and local inventor and entrepreneur Richard Willis of Kitchener, Ontario. Willis has formed a company called "Magnacoaster Motor Company" to promote and market an electrical generation device for household use that is said to generate large amounts of power without consuming any fuel. With a 1 ampere, 12 volt input, he claims to be able to create a 100 ampere, 57 kilowatt output. Quite a remarkable claim, which is stated on the home page of his website: http://www.vorktex.ca/home

If you click the "Helpers" link at the left side of his web page, you will notice that the 10th name listed is the University of Waterloo, and this brings us to the reason why I am contacting you. I am attempting to determine whether or not the Richard Willis invention, and his claims, has undergone any independent testing that would either validate or refute his claims. Since he claims to have been helped by the University of Waterloo, I would expect that some University staff member would be able to either confirm or deny this claim, and to briefly explain the extent of the University's collaboration in the development and/or testing of the device. The results data of any such testing, if existing, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

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Hopefully, the reply from U of W will serve to enlighten us one way or another.

Rick

[rickoff]

Reply from Carol Stewart at University of Waterloo:

Just received this reply to my inquiry, as previously posted, from Carol Stewart:

jgraham@innovationcentre.ca

Carol Stewart
UW Research + Technology Park
[T]519.888.4567, x36339
[M]519.498.1664

I have forwarded my inquiry to Josie Graham, along with the following addition, and will post that reply when received. In the meantime, view "After the Den: Magnacoaster," at the folowing dragon's Den website for remarks by Richard Willis and Brett Wilson: Dragons' Den | CBC Television
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To: Josie Graham, Canadian Industrial Innovation Centre, Accelerator Center, UW Research + Technology Park, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Hi Josie,

I was referred to you by Carol Stewart as being the person most likely to be able to answer the inquiry that I sent to her, which is found below [see my previous post in this thread]. I would very much appreciate any assistance you can offer in this regard, as Carol states that she is not familiar with the inventor whom I mentioned. She did say that you have a connection with Dragon's Den, and I know that the inventor has appeared on Dragon's Den with his device. A link to video of that appearance is here: YouTube - Dragon's Den - Vorktex MagnaCoaster Power Generation
In the video, the inventor claims that he had his device tested at the University of Waterloo, and that the first test results proved 2600% over unity. Can you verify this claim, or point me to a person who can?

Thank you for your assistance,

[rickoff]

Happy New Year,

Rick

[Vortex]

new solid state

new solid state will be available soon, video posted 2 weeks ago.

Magnetic power, green power, over unity, power for home, no wires, Richard Willis, Magnacoaster Motor Company Inc.
YouTube - Magnacoastermotors's Channel

Like Rick has been saying, some one should drive over there and look at these units.

500 Fairway Rd S 23-333
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada n2c1x3

[amigo]

I could as it's not far from here, but I have no idea what's this all "aboot."

I'd probably look like as if came to steal secrets or something...clueless with a camera, hehe.

Perhaps someone else would be better then...

[rickoff]

Reply to Amigo:

I could as it's not far from here, but I have no idea what's this all "aboot."

Hi Amigo,

Since you are nearby, perhaps you could visit a few people at the University of Waterloo, and see what you can find out about the validity of Richard Willis's claims. He claimed that his device was tested at UW, but I have had problems in attempting to confirm that. See my post #58 for details. I wrote to Carol Stewart at the UW Research + Technology Park, and she advised me to contact Josie Graham. I wrote to Josie, but did not receive a reply. So Josie would be the first person to hunt down, and she should know who you could contact regarding the actual tests done at UW, so that we can ask what the test consisted of, and what the results were. Willis made some bold claims, and perhaps they do have merit, but without substantiation they are meaningless.

Would you be willing to chase down the above information? That would be quite helpful. You can contact Josie Graham at the Canadian Industrial Innovation Centre, Accelerator Center, UW Research + Technology Park, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Use the information provided in post #58 for reference.

Best regards,

Rick