Tesla's Free Energy Concept

[dR-Green]

There seems to be a big mystery surrounding this subject, the conspiracy weavers love it for all kinds of reasons. The myth is shattered through doing the unthinkable - reading Tesla's writings.

1) Free Wireless Energy

This appears to be the source of all the confusion - the fact that consumers would be supplied with free electricity. Apparently no one considered the power supply that powered the transmitter. The transmitter was not self-powering, the energy was to be obtained through conventional means, using technologies that were available over 100 years ago, and are still readily available today.

... I simply went there because in Colorado my system of power transmission was introduced. All around the plants in the mountains, my three-phase system, and the induction motors were employed. All the mines surrounding Cripple Creek and Telluride were operated by them, and I had friends there who were only too delighted to give me all the power I wanted, and not charge anything for it.

Nikola Tesla On His Work With Alternating Currents And Their Application To Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony, And Transmission Of Power, page 109

Now, as then, what determines whether the energy that you consume is free or not is the person who supplies it. The conspiracy weavers and their ignorance are responsible for their own coverup and diversion. "Reveal the secrets of free energy!", when the energy generated by such things as water or wind is free anyway, of exactly the same source as powered Tesla's transmitter in Colorado. It's a matter of supply and "possession", not secret technologies.

[dR-Green]

2) "The Medium"

Sprouting energy out of thin air with magical technologies? Not quite. Here Tesla gives a clear description of his intentions and the energy source.

From "The Problem Of Increasing Human Energy, With Special References To The Harnessing Of The Sun's Energy" by Nikola Tesla

[dR-Green]

In Tesla's own words, he is not aware of any mystery energy source that the conspiracy weavers insist that he was using:

In recent experiments I have discovered two novel facts of importance in this connection. One of these facts is that an electric current is generated in a wire extending from the ground to a great height by the axial, and probably also by the translatory, movement of the earth. No appreciable current, however, will flow continuously in the wire unless the electricity is allowed to leak out into the air. Its escape is greatly facilitated by providing at the elevated end of the wire a conducting terminal of great surface, with many sharp edges or points. We are thus enabled to get a continuous supply of electrical energy by merely supporting a wire at a height, but, unfortunately, the amount of electricity which can be so obtained is small.

The second fact which I have ascertained is that the upper air strata are permanently charged with electricity opposite to that of the earth. So, at least, I have interpreted my observations, from which it appears that the earth, with its adjacent insulating and outer conducting envelope, constitutes a highly charged electrical condenser containing, in all probability, a great amount of electrical energy which might be turned to the uses of man, if it were possible to reach with a wire to great altitudes.

It is possible, and even probable, that there will be, in time, other resources of energy opened up, of which we have no knowledge now.

"The Problem of Increasing Human Energy" by Nikola Tesla

[dR-Green]

3) Radiant Energy

SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 685,957 dated November 5, 1901

[dR-Green]

Patent US685957 - NIKOLA TESLA - Google Patents

[dR-Green]

By the description given in 2), it can be seen and proven that even your car is in fact a "free energy" machine. That is, by considering the system as a whole, as it exists in reality and in relation to its environment, rather than a fuel tank and an engine, a greater total amount of energy may be dissipated at the end of a journey than the user input to the system to begin with. This is due to the fact that when the car moves through the air, the air charges the car. Since the energy of the static discharge may be calculated, and the total amount of energy input by the user known, then the total amount of energy dissipated may be calculated, resulting in more "out" than "in", relative to the user.

From wikipedia:

Thus can be seen that what Tesla speaks of is not a matter of sprouting energy out of thin air or any mystical secret technologies, but simply putting to use the energy that the existing systems are absolutely wasting in all conceivable forms.

[Gav]

so? are you saying everyone testing this idea is will get no where? and need a generator or input mains to make something usable?

[dR-Green]

so? are you saying everyone testing this idea is will get no where? and need a generator or input mains to make something usable?

Which idea are you referring to? There are three different ones.

John Bedini's SSG would most likely fall into 2) as another example. It requires a power source, but tries to make use of wastage. At least theoretically if you wanted a motor and did some battery charging on the side, then you do your regular work and collect the waste for "free". The power supply can be whatever you like, free (solar etc) or paid for. This is in relation to the machine itself, what it does with the supplied energy and what happens to the waste. Namely, efficiency, via the assistance of the environment. Intelligently designing your machine. It's not a quest for a mystical energy source.

As regards heat, we are at a high level, which may be represented by the surface of a mountain lake considerably above the sea, the level of which may mark the absolute zero of temperature existing in the interstellar space. Heat, like water, flows from high to low level, and, consequently, just as we can let the water of the lake run down to the sea, so we are able to let heat from the earth's surface travel up into the cold region above. Heat, like water, can perform work in flowing down, and if we had any doubt as to whether we could derive energy from the medium by means of a thermopile, as before described, it would be dispelled by this analogue. But can we produce cold in a given portion of the space and cause the heat to flow in continually? To create such a "sink," or "cold hole," as we might say, in the medium, would be equivalent to producing in the lake a space either empty or filled with something much lighter than water. This we could do by placing in the lake a tank, and pumping all the water out of the latter. We know, then, that the water, if allowed to flow back into the tank, would, theoretically, be able to perform exactly the same amount of work which was used in pumping it out, but not a bit more. Consequently nothing could be gained in this double operation of first raising the water and then letting it fall down. This would mean that it is impossible to create such a sink in the medium. But let us reflect a moment. Heat, though following certain general laws of mechanics, like a fluid, is not such; it is energy which may be converted into other forms of energy as it passes from a high to a low level. To make our mechanical analogy complete and true, we must, therefore, assume that the water, in its passage into the tank, is converted into something else, which may be taken out of it without using any, or by using very little, power. For example, if heat be represented in this analogue by the water of the lake, the oxygen and hydrogen composing the water may illustrate other forms of energy into which the heat is transformed in passing from hot to cold. If the process of heat transformation were absolutely perfect, no heat at all would arrive at the low level, since all of it would be converted into other forms of energy. Corresponding to this ideal case, all the water flowing into the tank would be decomposed into oxygen and hydrogen before reaching the bottom, and the result would be that water would continually flow in, and yet the tank would remain entirely empty, the gases formed escaping. We would thus produce, by expending initially a certain amount of work to create a sink for the heat or, respectively, the water to flow in, a condition enabling us to get any amount of energy without further effort. This would be an ideal way of obtaining motive power. We do not know of any such absolutely perfect process of heat-conversion, and consequently some heat will generally reach the low level, which means to say, in our mechanical analogue, that some water will arrive at the bottom of the tank, and a gradual and slow filling of the latter will take place, necessitating continuous pumping out. But evidently there will be less to pump out than flows in, or, in other words, less energy will be needed to maintain the initial condition than is developed by the fall, and this is to say that some energy will be gained from the medium. What is not converted in flowing down can just be raised up with its own energy, and what is converted is clear gain. Thus the virtue of the principle I have discovered resides wholly in the conversion of the energy on the downward flow.

As for the radiant energy, that's worthy of study. But just earlier I was sent a video to watch, in the video Tesla's patent was shown. Do you think the circuit used was the same as what was shown in the patent seconds later? No. So apparently people are unable to leave it alone, they go off and do other things before they even successfully replicated it as it is in the patent. So overall I expect people will get nowhere with that, as they have already gotten nowhere so far, because they're not doing what they claim to be doing and haven't noticed. Herein lies the problem of thinking that youtube knows better than Tesla and then copying other people's youtube postings etc.

[Gav]

(quote) Intelligently designing your machine. It's not a quest for a mystical energy source...

haha exactly correct, although sometimes it does "seem like magic"

im more thinking of teslas basic device, using the ground and antenna to gain energy.
also, can i ask what you are working on at the moment? you said its a tesla device?

[dR-Green]

(quote) Intelligently designing your machine. It's not a quest for a mystical energy source...

haha exactly correct, although sometimes it does "seem like magic"

im more thinking of teslas basic device, using the ground and antenna to gain energy.
also, can i ask what you are working on at the moment? you said its a tesla device?

This is in "The Problem Of Increasing Human Energy"

Electricity produced by natural causes is another source of energy which might be rendered available. Lightning discharges involve great amounts of electrical energy, which we could utilize by transforming and storing it. Some years ago I made known a method of electrical transformation which renders the first part of this task easy, but the storing of the energy of lightning discharges will be difficult to accomplish. It is well known, furthermore, that electric currents circulate constantly through the earth, and that there exists between the earth and any air stratum a difference of electrical pressure, which varies in proportion to the height.

In recent experiments I have discovered two novel facts of importance in this connection. One of these facts is that an electric current is generated in a wire extending from the ground to a great height by the axial, and probably also by the translatory, movement of the earth. No appreciable current, however, will flow continuously in the wire unless the electricity is allowed to leak out into the air. Its escape is greatly facilitated by providing at the elevated end of the wire a conducting terminal of great surface, with many sharp edges or points. We are thus enabled to get a continuous supply of electrical energy by merely supporting a wire at a height, but, unfortunately, the amount of electricity which can be so obtained is small.

The second fact which I have ascertained is that the upper air strata are permanently charged with electricity opposite to that of the earth. So, at least, I have interpreted my observations, from which it appears that the earth, with its adjacent insulating and outer conducting envelope, constitutes a highly charged electrical condenser containing, in all probability, a great amount of electrical energy which might be turned to the uses of man, if it were possible to reach with a wire to great altitudes.

It is possible, and even probable, that there will be, in time, other resources of energy opened up, of which we have no knowledge now. We may even find ways of applying forces such as magnetism or gravity for driving machinery without using any other means. Such realizations, though highly improbable, are not impossible.

According to an unreliable source (not Tesla), by "small amount of electricity" Tesla means enough to power a small town. But I haven't found a reliable source to confirm this.

At the moment I'm working on the Magnifying Transmitter/Eric Dollard coil. And probably will be for a long time yet But I'm approaching the end of the testing on this "test coil" so then I can finally start work on the reason for Eric's design in the first place, the Crystal Radio Initiative, for receiving an AM radio transmission via the earth. I just need to know what to build before I start building it

[Gav]

im a beliver it is possible to generate enough power to keep a good size battery bank charged, and be able to run a generator off it and power 1 house from 1 device. i have no education in any feild of science but over the last few months ive been lazyly experimening with this way of generating electricity, ive looked up all the info on how the magnetic feilds work, from the earth to the perminant magnet, and alot on what tesla did.
so far my best design has given me 18.5dcv, that is instant, as soon as i connect it, i havnt finnished it yet and im sure i can easily double that reading, all im doing is experimenting with different coils and electromagnetic forces.

[boguslaw]

please translate

[boguslaw]

New Energy Generator That "Would Not Consume Fuel" - Tesla's Letter to Robert U. Johnson
and

A Letter From Nicola Tesla – Orbo.es

[dR-Green]

That isn't directly Tesla's work, but thanks for posting. This is a quote from it:

He did not appear in any search of any machine that would break any of the laws of thermodynamics

And I would propose that THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT. No "laws of science" are broken anywhere on this page, yet the whole thing speaks of "free energy". Hence there is no magical or mystery energy source involved, this is all still established science. Tesla's self-acting machine concept is a matter of engineering it into practical use.

That is to say, no work is being done on Tesla's "free energy" concept as he intended, because people are searching for magic where there is none. It's the perfect diversion.

I followed the references in the Robert U. Johnson letter back to the source, which is "The Problem Of Increasing Human Energy". The parts referred to in the letter are posted above as 2) "The Medium", and the "novel facts" quoted in a reply to Gav.

[Ufopolitics]

Dr Green...

So according to this Thread...

You are trying to "conclude" there was not anything "Mystical" should we say about Nikola Tesla?...
Radiant Energy was not there either?

It seems you are driving the "Main Subject" here to take off our Minds there were nothing of Conspiracy...Hidden Patents...seized work...just BECAUSE there was "Nothing Out of This World"...when we all say just "Nikola Tesla's Work"?

Am I right so far?

If I am right...then could You explain why...Being the Image He was for Electric Engineering World Wide...How come NONE of His great Research, theories and Main Work in General...is NOT taught in ANY University in Our Beautiful Planet?

How come the MAIN Developer of A/C Who WAS Him (Nikola Tesla) and George Westinghouse WHO ILLUMINATED the United States FIRST Power Plant (Chicago Fair 1896/Based on Niagara Falls Power Plant)...when before that... there was only the ridiculous DC Electrical Supply provided on Post to Post every two meters from Thomas Alva Edison joint venture to J.P Morgan Funding Both the Greatest Reap Off in Electrical History...known as General Electric.?

In reality should have been called "GENERAL OIL"...never electrical...never was up to now...Oil based deal there..

But, sorry, deviated the main issue...

...Now tell me about... why Nikola Tesla is not taught in EE UNIVERSITIES in the entire Globe?

No Conspiracy Uh?


Sure Man...


Regards


Ufopolitics